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  1. #626
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossymcg View Post
    you can have some of our rain, whats your dirt like with so little rain?

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    Ours is powdah dirt. Non packable and just horrible. Where some trails punch straight up a little pitch it erodes terribly with a lack of rain. I try my best to really think about sustainability when building new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossymcg View Post
    you can have some of our rain, whats your dirt like with so little rain?[/URL]
    Lots of loose sand and moon dust.

  3. #628
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    you'd give your kids away for my dirt. It's truly amazing. Its always damp but never soggy

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    i dont kare i carnt spell or youse punktuation properlee, im on a skiing forum

  4. #629
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Well, I guess this belongs here, though it's pretty WTF for a tool video.

    Been using the prototypes for over a year now, I love these tools. Incredibly fast to deploy and put away. I have a TrailBoss also which is a great tool but I hate assembling it and tearing it down especially with rolling maintenance, your not gonna skip a section cause itís not worthy of putting the tool together anymore. Built a fair amount of serious trail with these tools. Full disclosure Iím buddyís with the guy running this company, that said having spent a ton of time with these tools Iím sold, I ordered 3 handles and a bunch of heads

  5. #630
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Been using the prototypes for over a year now, I love these tools. Incredibly fast to deploy and put away. I have a TrailBoss also which is a great tool but I hate assembling it and tearing it down especially with rolling maintenance, your not gonna skip a section cause itís not worthy of putting the tool together anymore. Built a fair amount of serious trail with these tools. Full disclosure Iím buddyís with the guy running this company, that said having spent a ton of time with these tools Iím sold, I ordered 3 handles and a bunch of heads
    Cool

  6. #631
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    Just another mudhole

    Many hands helped dumb down the Greenland Glory mudhole with lots of rocks and dirt

    Pic 1. Put a Pile Rocks Here sign. The pile grew quickly over the week

    Pic 2. Scooped water out of the hole ( it was a good 40cms deep

    Pic 3. Dug out a sump on picture right as a low lying area where water could drain. This yielded lots of rock and mineral soil. Then moved the retainer log to the centre of the trail

    Pic 4. Started raising the trailbed of the new trail ( now directed more to picture left ). Continued excavating the old hole which is now drained of water.

    Pic 5. Used all the rock to completely raise the trailbed which is now almost 40cms higher and raised over the old hole which is now a sump.

    Pic 6. Laid mineral soil on top of the rock.

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  7. #632
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    good stuff, lee!

  8. #633
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    Never built a climbing trail before. Most of the switchbacks go fine like this one which took approx half hour.

    Pic 1. Routed trail over a hump and switchbacks into a mineral soil load. Warehoused soil and rocks. Exposed soil and kept moss intact to place on the side

    Pic 2. Harvested more moss from centre. Dug out middle so there's a space to put the warehoused rocks. Continued keeping soil off to side.

    Pic3. Finished the exit by flattening the exit hump. Used rocks to crib Apex of turn. Spread soil over entire switchback. Lined turn with the moss that'd been set aside.

    Repeat for 22 switchbacks and counting
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  9. #634
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    Ran into this one switchback on the climbing trail "Deep Green" where you run into a rock like an iceberg. You think it's manageable to use as fill but the more you dig the bigger it gets.

    Pic1 S-turn with loamy entryway hump and a pocket of mossy holes right at turn Apex

    Pic 2- Start exposing and harvesting moss. Uh oh. It's a big one

    Pic3 - dig a hole to China which does result in lots of soil and rock one can use to dumb down the entryway. Seperate rock and soil and drop them at top and bottom of what now is the Mother of all Holes

    Pic 4 - After realizing the Iceberg rock ain't going nowhere use the (by now ) rather massive collection of rock and soil you have to build up the turn around the Iceberg rock

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  10. #635
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    Have you used a 6' or bigger digging bar? Those, some gravity, and leverage rocks can work magic with massive boulders.

  11. #636
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Have you used a 6' or bigger digging bar? Those, some gravity, and leverage rocks can work magic with massive boulders.
    I do have a massive pry bar. But it wasn't with me that day and I had a massive source of rocks close by. This turned out to be a personal challenge that fortunately worked out well

  12. #637
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    I do have a massive pry bar. But it wasn't with me that day and I had a massive source of rocks close by. This turned out to be a personal challenge that fortunately worked out well
    Yeah, its brutal to not have all your tools with you and it's just as brutal to get them all out to where you may or may not need them. My stuff is stashed in two different spots at the moment. I buy everything with a fiberglass handle now just so I can leave them without worrying about wood rot.

  13. #638
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    Jack. Same here with respect to the fiberglass handles. I have to gps my tool caches as I gave 4 and leave them up in ski season. I've lost stuff before not remembering where they are

  14. #639
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    I've lost stuff before not remembering where they are
    Haha! Oh man, me too! What kills me is not losing the tool specifically, but that I'm a littering douchebag! So now I take pictures of where I left them...but when you actually go back and look at the pictures months later...the woods kinda looks the same everywhere around here. Thankfully I haven't lost anything in a few years now.

  15. #640
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    I go back and forth on fiberglass handles vs. wrapping my tool cache in a tarp. Lately I've been going with the tarp, since most of my favorite tools are wood handled. A brown tarp is also good for blending in and being discrete, which I like.

  16. #641
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Haha! Oh man, me too! What kills me is not losing the tool specifically, but that I'm a littering douchebag! So now I take pictures of where I left them...but when you actually go back and look at the pictures months later...the woods kinda looks the same everywhere around here. Thankfully I haven't lost anything in a few years now.
    You know your phone records the lat/long of where you took the picture right? Assuming you didn't turn that feature off, go look at the metadata for the pic and navigate to the coordinates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geomorph View Post
    You know your phone records the lat/long of where you took the picture right? Assuming you didn't turn that feature off, go look at the metadata for the pic and navigate to the coordinates.
    This, or use an app like Map Marker to tag the location. It's phone GPS so it will be off a bit but should get you close enough.

  18. #643
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    Quote Originally Posted by geomorph View Post
    You know your phone records the lat/long of where you took the picture right? Assuming you didn't turn that feature off, go look at the metadata for the pic and navigate to the coordinates.
    I'm just a ditch digger man!

    I must have that setting off.

  19. #644
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    ^^^ it says it right there. Your tools are stashed in the forest, next to the scenery.

    You're welcome.

  20. #645
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    ^^^ it says it right there. Your tools are stashed in the forest, next to the scenery.

    You're welcome.
    Thank you!

  21. #646
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    Re tool stashes. I share a too stash with friends. When we move them we'll record a little video as it makes it easier to figure out. So far so good

  22. #647
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    Spent all summer driving a machine building trails. Was pretty fun!

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    The whole human race is de evolving; it is due to birth control, smart people use birth control, and stupid people keep pooping out more stupid babies.

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