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  1. #201
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    Pump tracking

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    Slab, to dry-stacked rock wall, to dirt. Seven Summits trail, Rossland BC.

  3. #203
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    That's some beautiful work right there ^
    dirtbag, not a dentist

  4. #204
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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    honestly, if people just took 1-2 hours of 1 day per year to go out and do a little bit of maintenance on their local trails, whether that is brushing, clearing drainage, or little tweaks like the above we would all benefit so much! good on ya!
    Thanks. Yeah, so true. Just a little goes a long way. It does irk me a bit...those that always ride but don't pitch in for maintenance.

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    Slab, to dry-stacked rock wall, to dirt. Seven Summits trail, Rossland BC.
    That is sweet!

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Thanks. Yeah, so true. Just a little goes a long way. It does irk me a bit...those that always ride but don't pitch in for maintenance.
    I am kinda one of those guys, though. I will only do maintenance a couple hours a year on the trails i ride 95% of the time, but will put in 7-10 full dig days on trails an hour+ away from me that i only ride a handful of times per year haha. I kinda figure that there is someone else from up there that digs a bunch down by me and it all comes out in the wash haha.

  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    I am kinda one of those guys, though. I will only do maintenance a couple hours a year on the trails i ride 95% of the time, but will put in 7-10 full dig days on trails an hour+ away from me that i only ride a handful of times per year haha. I kinda figure that there is someone else from up there that digs a bunch down by me and it all comes out in the wash haha.
    Yeah, but even a couple hours is huge imo. Anything adds to cumulative good. I enjoy building, so it's not a big deal, but I'm not big on maintenance. That is where I'd like to see the guys riding the trails we've built to pitch in. That way we can keep going on the builds. The maint is a time suck, but needed.

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    some great work getting done in here, props to all the diggers and supporters!

  8. #208
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    Nice work on Seven Summits.
    Iíll be riding that next week.


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  9. #209
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    Dig stoke, who else likes to play in the dirt???

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    These are my Specialized riding gloves, safe to say Iíve done some trail work in these guys.


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  10. #210
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    Wrote this little piece about Gravity Logic. Yah I'm a fan

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    They undoubtedly build some amazing trails. That said, they've been hired to build a few around here that turned out to be rather disappointing. I suspect there were some constraints imposed on them by the client and kinda doubt it was what they would have chosen to build had they been given total creative freedom. Not exactly sure what my point even is other than "We've hired Gravity Logic..." doesn't guarantee you're going to get a Whistler-quality trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    They undoubtedly build some amazing trails. That said, they've been hired to build a few around here that turned out to be rather disappointing. I suspect there were some constraints imposed on them by the client and kinda doubt it was what they would have chosen to build had they been given total creative freedom. Not exactly sure what my point even is other than "We've hired Gravity Logic..." doesn't guarantee you're going to get a Whistler-quality trail.
    When an artist isn't given creative freedom, or is given a narrow directive, you can't expect them to produce a masterpiece. I would guess they were directed to make a specific type of trail, catering to a specific skill level, with specific contraints (width, max grade, length, etc.).

    IMO, if you are going to pay a master builder to build you a trail, i think it would be best to give them a budget, a general trail type to build, and then let them have creative freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    IMO, if you are going to pay a master builder to build you a trail, i think it would be best to give them a budget, a general trail type to build, and then let them have creative freedom.
    That's certainly how I'd do it. Serious money was spent on these trails, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    That's certainly how I'd do it. Serious money was spent on these trails, too.
    I was told that the "resource constraints" you pointed to were a limiting factor. Not to get all corporate-speak or pass the buck but routing, post-build maintenance etc count for a lot and the Utah site-owner definitely didn't buy into that ( which is their prerogative)

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    Dan, are you referring to 'pay to play' private or is this state, county, blm, etc paying out of pocket? I can see a gov entity just getting it done and maybe enhancing with the next budget...or not.

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    Switchbacks suck, but they are necessary evil sometimes. Some backcountry machine built that will definitely not ride like flow trail in the Anaconda Pintlers that we built last summer. Curious to go back and ride it and see what kind of chunky bliss emerged after the winter.


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  17. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    When an artist isn't given creative freedom, or is given a narrow directive, you can't expect them to produce a masterpiece. I would guess they were directed to make a specific type of trail, catering to a specific skill level, with specific contraints (width, max grade, length, etc.).

    IMO, if you are going to pay a master builder to build you a trail, i think it would be best to give them a budget, a general trail type to build, and then let them have creative freedom.
    thats certainly part of it
    i would add though that having the locals involved is a key ingredient as well, knowing the dirt, terrain, user group, and volunteer support is all just as important as wicked built trails
    pro diggers cant know everything about everywhere, local knowledge is crucial to long term success imo
    if they wont get used, maintained, or last then its just a waste of $, as many land managers are finding out...

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    been doing the normal routine at local park
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    water water water
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    pumptracks got pressure washed and getting seal coated tomorrow
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    not a bad little park overall
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    Slowly growing the local Primitive Trail Network.
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    Had our CBMBA Overnight trail building event last weekend. Reroute of 403 on the Washington Gulch trailhead side. Moved the trail off parts of private land and fully onto public lands. 90 people came out Saturday and 35 remained through Sunday to put in 1 mile of new trail.
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    Also big thanks to TGR for the article about CBMBA's Conservation Corps efforts.
    https://www.tetongravity.com/feature...weat-and-gears

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    Various projects we're working on around Rossland.
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  23. #223
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    Nice rock work on that first shot.

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    You guys and gals up in BC do such nice work on trails, be it riding or hiking. Wish we could get that kind of work done down here in the states without the constant bickering of who is going to maintain it and needing to do all sorts of EIS, mind you the motorized trails and logging/mining/development industry have no problem putting a dozer blade to a hillside without much thought.

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    Nice Koots
    I have been enjoying the fruits of your labor. It is very much appreciated.
    Thanks


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