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05-24-2013, 10:53 AM #26Hugh Conway Guest
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05-24-2013, 10:55 AM #27Registered User
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See, that's your problem. You just have such a vendetta against me. You are so ANGRY about me that you can't even see when I am right. I was actually talking about the subject at hand. Why did I choose to do it? Because I had an opinion on the subject. Why did you go out of your way to not bother comment on the subject at hand but instead chose to attack someone that is correct? The fact you can't see your issues is the saddest part.
Sad, real sad.Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
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05-24-2013, 10:56 AM #28
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05-24-2013, 11:00 AM #29Registered User
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Have you ever gone into a shop and had them say they can get that item for you, but you'll need to pay suggested retail plus shipping? That's when you need to know when to walk out the door
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05-24-2013, 11:04 AM #30Banned
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I love armchair psychologists...you're a fuckin tool dude with no real "answers" to anything...
THERE ISNT A RIGHT ANSWER...bc.com is in business right? They pretty much stock fucking everything and yeah they have a "brick and mortar" shop..i can walk in and get pretty much anything...ive seen small shops waste money on inventory that they'll never sell out of because their margins are better on it (like mentioned) but not stock what many customers actually want...a bike shop should have a ton of bike parts..not a ton of fucking clothing for riding your bike. I obviously understand they can't stock "everything" but really...a variety of seatposts? Seems they should have some of those.
im "sad, real sad" but at least in not alone in a city full of women, it is Boston right? I think the elephant man could get a chick in Baastan...maybe you need to do some reflection as to why you're alone or date married women and fall in love with them then get dumped, likely cause you got too attached. Its likely cause you're a fucking know it all and cant ever be wrong..
Enjoy your lonely weekend.
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05-24-2013, 11:09 AM #31Registered User
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05-24-2013, 11:13 AM #32
You won't know until you've realized that you should have a relationship with the shop by now, and you aren't getting any deals. If you have to pay full price for a while before you get the deals, then how do you know if you'll ever get the deals until it's too late and you've already sunk some money into a shop? That's why I hate the B&M bullshit model. You invest in a shop and it doesn't give back, but you don't know until it's too late.
If I need something in-season, for anything more than dinky $5-10 purchases like minor parts, I'll buy it over the internet from whoever has it on sale. At the end of the season, that's when I'll buy from a shop, when their stuff is on closeout and the prices are finally good. There's a few shops that are the exception, but I'm friends with people that work there, so I get hookups without having to invest a good amount of money into the relationship.
The B&M model works well in small towns, where, if you live there for a while, you know everyone. That's when you get the REAL deals and the hookups (the ones that are actually worth it). It has everything to do with the relationship you've built by living there, referring people there, and being a face that they know. You get that relationship for very little money. For a large city, the B&M model is bound to make you pretty anonymous to the salespeople, unless you're friends, or friends of friends.
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05-24-2013, 11:15 AM #33
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05-24-2013, 11:16 AM #34
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05-24-2013, 11:31 AM #35Registered User
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05-24-2013, 11:49 AM #36IMO, that's the problem with it being hip and trendy to be into the outdoors. The people who actually use their shit can't find parts, because most people (that don't use their shit) don't ever need parts.off your knees Louie
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05-24-2013, 11:53 AM #37
Ug. I've been complaining about this for years. I try to support my local running stores, but almost every time I go in they don't have the shoe I want (popular model) in my size (common size). Then they tell me they can order it for me. You'd think they would do a better job of stocking popular models in popular styles, easy to sell and all.
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05-24-2013, 12:00 PM #38
I've been dealing with that a bunch too lately. Particularly with paint, too. They say they can order it, but act like they REALLY don't want to, trying to convince me to buy some other product (that won't match exactly). I tell them I need it today and will just go down the street to another store. "Hold up, let me look some more....(5 minutes later)...Hey! We found some in the back!" Well, waddya know. How convenient.
I understand stocking issues, but a good local shop will have tons of random crap stocked. They don't exactly need to be REI to have all the basics you'd want. One of my favorite ski shops is TINY, yet they somehow have always had every little thing I've ever wanted and have never told me "No, but we can order it." Some shops are simply managed and smartly stocked better than others, plain and simple.
I don't feel too bad for small town shops hurt by the internet. It's either time to get with the times, or miss out on a LOT of business. Case in point. I used to go to a very well stocked African freshwater fish store in San Antonio for a Cichlid tank I used to have. Guy operates out of a crappy little strip mall and by the looks of it, you would expect to be a struggling business, especially being for such a specific hobby. Nope. Dude ended up running one of the most successful online stores in the nation for African chichlids. I could always walk in there and get ANYTHING I freaking wanted. Would always hook me up, too. Site is extremely basic (http://www.davesfish.com/), but Dave does quite well with it. He's always slammed...with online orders. Yet has always treated walk-in customers very well. Like the tiny ski shop I mentioned above, Dave has never told me, "no, but we can order it." HE'S the guy people order THEIR stuff from. All in a store no bigger than a couple thousand square feet.
Yes, small local businesses CAN be the go-to places for your shopping desires if they run them right.
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05-24-2013, 12:08 PM #39
While on the one hand I like having good local businesses, I shed no tears for the terrible bike/ski shops with awful customer service that only survived for years because there were the only source for gear. Modern online shops often offer excellent customer service, ship time, prices and selection. That is the reality and that is what shops have to compete with. I hate ordering parts at local shops because A) Half the time you call in a week to see if the part is in and they forgot to order it and B) the other half of the time they order the wrong part. If they are going to survive, local shops really need to up their game and provide superb in-person customer service.
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05-24-2013, 12:30 PM #40Hucked to flat once
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Like most things, it depends. I like my local shop and I think they like me. I definitely give them some leeway if they don't stock what I'm looking for but offer to order. Other shops in town, can pound it but they've lost my business long ago.
Shops can't stock everything. Neither can your favorite online retailer. It's just easier to type a new web address than drive to another brick and mortar shop across town but same concept.
I had a great experience ordering something from a brick and mortar a couple months ago. I stopped in to drop a coffee out of the blue for one of my favorite techs. He asks me if I'm still considering building up a tubeless setup for my beach cruiser. "Maybe, why?". Turned out QBP was blowing out flows for super cheap (like about 80% off retail) and he passed the savings on to me and gave me a huge break on building the wheels up on a coaster hub because he thought it was a cool and semi-retarded project. That would have never happened had I not ordered through him in the past and talked to him like he's a human. Something to think about...Last edited by Conundrum; 05-24-2013 at 01:22 PM.
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05-24-2013, 12:59 PM #41
Part of the problem is people confuse bike shops with bike stores. Most places people whine about are bike stores. Examples in the Bay Area of bike shops would be Shaw's in Santa Clara or Palo Alto Bike Shop 20 years ago. I'm not sure if these places even exit anymore. My local shop in Wenatchee is Full Circle, it's a lot like Shaw's was in the old location. There are several other bike stores in town that people refer to as "shops".
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05-24-2013, 01:10 PM #42Registered User
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Basically, last time I had a shop order something for me, they dropped the ball, then blamed me. I then ordered the parts direct from the manufacturer, at a much lower price and didn't even have to talk to a stoner shop monkey.
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05-24-2013, 02:05 PM #43
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05-24-2013, 02:09 PM #44
Well then what the fuck is a supreme being such as yourself even doing associating with such riff raff???
Also you could have just said that in the beginning hahaha... Freakin drama queen sounds like you just went to a shit shop or dealt with an idiot. Chill. Wooooooooooo saaaaaaaaaaah. Not everybody sucks.
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05-24-2013, 02:21 PM #45Registered User
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05-24-2013, 02:51 PM #46Education must be the answer, we've tried ignorance and it doesn't work!
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05-24-2013, 02:58 PM #47
WTF is up with bike shops being closed on Sundays?
Sounds like you need to find a good shop. It's about the only thing I miss since moving. Kegerator and Friday happy hour.
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05-24-2013, 03:36 PM #48
This thread is stupid. If you need something today call a shop and ask for it. If you need to finger fuck something go into the shop. If they dont have what you want move on to the next shop or order it online. This is first grade shit.
As for everyone saying support your local shops, they can support themselves. If they stock what people want they wont have a problem competing with online retailers. Shops can most importantly provide insight and a higher level of customer service that isnt typically available from online retailers. I have personally been accused of lying by a shop when getting a product that I purchased at the shop warrantied. Not exactly sure what value they think they are providing to me in that case over an online retailer with a no questions asked return policy (Smith warrantied the lenses without a problem for me btw). So basically people should support their local shops if the shops earn it. Its not their fucking right.
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05-24-2013, 03:52 PM #49
Don't recall anyone saying "it's their fucking right" .... Best of lucky to you.
My LBS is closed till noon on Sundays.... Because he started and supports "The Sunday ride".
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05-24-2013, 03:58 PM #50
I dont recall ever saying someone said it...
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