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**TBS** · 05-28-2013, 08:30 AM

^^^ I don't think the eastern OR onion farmers feel that way...

**sftc** · 05-28-2013, 09:27 AM

Can Monsanto and GMO's start WW III? The Russians say maybe....

http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/ru...obama-monsanto

The shocking minutes relating to President Putin’s meeting this past week with US Secretary of State John Kerry reveal the Russian leaders “extreme outrage” over the Obama regimes continued protection of global seed and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a growing “bee apocalypse” that the Kremlin warns “will most certainly” lead to world war....

**Ripzalot** · 05-29-2013, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Cono Este

I was putting togeter growing contracts in peru and chile for off season sweet onions for 4 yrs.

Before i exited. the biz I was competing with eastern oregon growers who are trying to grow sweet onions through. december with some new monsanto seed that defies all laws of nature and will grow into the winter. Not a long day onion, not a short day. A mutant. Local saint louis grocery store Diebergs pArtnered with them early on and were happy to pull everything of mine to support monsatos experiment on you. Also, its not actually a sweet Onion, its some shitty yellow they market as sweet.

http://www.monsanto.com/newsviews/Pa...d-options.aspx

If they can provide a local solution, without all the fossil fuels burned to transport them, isn't that a net positive?

Seems a lot of anti-GMO perhaps pro-organics ignore the whole climate change issue in favor of their own hyperbole. Not only that, the whole world can't be fed on organically grown produce. Its not sustainable on a large scale and only makes sense to the elites who can afford it.

**jfost** · 05-29-2013, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ripzalot

...their own hyperbole.

Not only that, the whole world can't be fed on organically grown produce. Its not sustainable on a large scale and only makes sense to the elites who can afford it.

This was funny, but I do agree with your take on local solutions, we need to change our tune so that sweet onions from chile aren't the answer for the mid-winter blahs.

**jeremiahyawnson** · 05-29-2013, 09:00 AM

Not only that, the whole world can't be fed on organically grown produce.

Not true. This is the problem. Local food production on smaller scales is the solution to getting rid of transportation emissions.

Perhaps implementing the USDA organic documentation would be impossible.

Changing peoples understanding of what a sustainable diet is (education of what is in season near them etc). In most of the world that is not elite enough to eat food that got shipped there, organic is the only affordable option because they can't afford patented seeds or patented chemicals.

Sure whole foods is not the answer. But neither is GMO mono-crops owned by a monopoly.

**powdork** · 05-29-2013, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by sftc

Can Monsanto and GMO's start WW III? The Russians say maybe....

http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/ru...obama-monsanto

hmmm, did that really happen. the only references i can find of it are on the conspiracy theory network (of which topinfopost is a part), and they tend to make shit up to sell ads.

**MTT** · 05-29-2013, 04:01 PM

FYI, Getting up at 9AM Saturday Morning to be there by 10 just turned out to be impossible for me. I blew it off.

Woke up @ 11ish Saturday and thought Oh well. Watched some TV, then pushed some leaves and dirt around the yard in the afternoon. Still have not planted Tomato's yet.
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**hutash** · 05-29-2013, 04:18 PM

^^^GMO tomatoes?

**TBS** · 05-29-2013, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by MTT

FYI, Getting up at 9AM Saturday Morning to be there by 10 just turned out to be impossible for me. I blew it off.

Woke up @ 11ish Saturday and thought Oh well. Watched some TV, then pushed some leaves and dirt around the yard in the afternoon. Still have not planted Tomato's yet.
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Total Fail - all this drivel and you couldn't even get up in time to bring us pics of hot hippy chicks.

**DasBlunt** · 05-30-2013, 02:06 AM

so now the russians are saying the bee apocalypse is upon us and most certainly we will all die from starvation in 7-12 years.

**Game Over** · 06-28-2013, 02:32 PM

Late to the party.

Some good GMO info in here. Anyone care to share more?

I'm a little surprised that there is basically no respected studies supporting the antiGMO side.

Am I missing something?

**jfost** · 06-28-2013, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

...I'm a little surprised that there is basically no respected studies supporting the antiGMO side.

Am I missing something?

no money in it + monsantomafia suppressing you at every turn = good luck!

**masterofgreenbeans** · 06-29-2013, 08:36 PM

www.cornicopia.org
www.organicconsumers.org

**uglymoney** · 06-29-2013, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

Late to the party.

Some good GMO info in here. Anyone care to share more?

I'm a little surprised that there is basically no respected studies supporting the antiGMO side.

Am I missing something?

I have a couple people on my facebook that go on and on about the dangers of eating gmo food but they are smokers and I see no posts from them about that very real risk. I have an open mind and worry mostly about unintentional gene propagation but with billions of people to feed on a planet with a changing climate these crops are probably going to keep billions from starving - at least for a while. Watching crops wither and then still produce through the amazing drought last summer here in Iowa was amazing and then this summer we have had the wettest spring and early summer in history. Planting stuff that can handle these extremes and still produce is the new reality - if we want to eat that is. A lot of fields in northern Iowa will get nothing but cover crops this summer because they are too wet to work - still.

**Game Over** · 06-30-2013, 06:28 PM

Interesting
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/...ssive-movement

**masterofgreenbeans** · 07-01-2013, 10:09 PM

IDK are any of these legit?
http://www.antigmofoods.com/2013/05/...dation_27.html

**splat** · 07-01-2013, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by steepconcrete

Late to the party.

Some good GMO info in here. Anyone care to share more?

I'm a little surprised that there is basically no respected studies supporting the antiGMO side.

Am I missing something?

They bought their way around peer review because real scientists aren't really peers of the corporate/political types running things.

**Zeedashbo** · 07-02-2013, 08:26 AM

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...30611?irpc=932

This is already being called hogwash by the mass media.

The great thing is that you can't do a gmo study without permission from the patent holder of the seed. Like not being able to study tobacco without consent from marlboro.

I'm stoked to see all the gmo loving hipsters in here feeling ironic by loving gmos since all the non cool people hate them. Have fun sucking down round up and having autistic children.

There's nothing that correlates the gmo to being bad for you. There's no way monsanto will let you do a real study on how your body is digesting the proteins. It's the sucking down of all those sweet herbicides and pesticides that'll get ya.

**bklyn** · 07-02-2013, 08:33 AM

Is anyone in this thread saying they love GMO?

**Zeedashbo** · 07-02-2013, 08:42 AM

More of a pbr and flannel fueled retort that says I'm not gonna agree because that wouldn't be ironic.

Anyone notice the hipster girls are wearing cut off, high waisted mom jeans now? So gross.

**4matic** · 07-02-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by splat

They bought their way around peer review because real scientists aren't really peers of the corporate/political types running things.

Is that why there is general scientific consensus on global warming?

There's some irony for you.. The same people buying into global warming are probably against GMO. Selective science.

**splat** · 07-02-2013, 09:01 AM

I believe there are actually studies that have been done on global warming.
However, gmo was allowed into the food chain without any studies.
Why else would a law be passed protecting Monsanto from any lawsuits resulting from illness or death of people who ate their roundup shit?
The gmo studies are stifled but stuff like this is starting to show up:

http://www.naturalnews.com/z040727_G..._stomachs.html

**4matic** · 07-02-2013, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by splat

I believe there are actually studies that have been done on global warming.
However, gmo was allowed into the food chain without any studies.
Why else would a law be passed protecting Monsanto from any lawsuits resulting from illness or death of people who ate their roundup shit?
The gmo studies are stifled but stuff like this is starting to show up:

http://www.naturalnews.com/z040727_G..._stomachs.html

http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2013/06/gmo-pig/

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...-gmo-activism/

“The science is quite clear: crop improvement by the modern molecular techniques of biotechnology is safe. The World Health Organization, the American Medical Association, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the British Royal Society, and every other respected organization that has examined the evidence has come to the same conclusion: consuming foods containing ingredients derived from GM crops is no riskier than consuming the same foods containing ingredients from crop plants modified by conventional plant improvement techniques.”