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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    I would think you’d have to be overwatering quite a bit to get it to have any kind of recharge effect on an aquifer?


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    As Danno's post says it depends on a lot of factors. For instance irrigating my fields would contribute more to recharging than when I irrigate my lawn due to the amount of time/water. How much more I don't know but there are rules and reporting requirements plus we have a water master who will shut you off if necessary.
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    Ah, missed Danno’s post. Thanks for the details.


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    Generally speaking, watering a lawn shouldn't be recharging an aquifer because that probably means you're significantly overwatering. Plus, most overwatering of lawns that I see returns to the aquifer via storm drains, due to surface runoff. But as a concept, if you water anything in the ground -- crops or grass -- the idea is the same. Some gets consumed by the plant, some gets "consumed" by evaporation, and the rest returns to the system in some fashion, either as surface runoff or groundwater recharge.
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    The average Joe doesn't think about water rights here in the rural northeast because in a lot of places, we have too much water. Until we don't. The current drought map for New England that was posted in that other thread was interesting, alarming, and illuminating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    The average Joe doesn't think about water rights here in the rural northeast because in a lot of places, we have too much water. Until we don't. The current drought map for New England that was posted in that other thread was interesting, alarming, and illuminating.
    That and the water laws are completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    That and the water laws are completely different.
    No shit Sherlock. Please re-read what I posted. That was implied. My apologies for not painting it in 40 foot high letters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontuckyFried View Post
    Yup. Why everybody out West isn't xeriscaping is beyond me. Since I bought my house, Ive ripped out around 1/2 my grass and was either covered up by deck or replaced with rock, cacti and other asst desert plants. Has made this drought and heat no problem whatsoever. Heck, the plants are thriving in it and in full bloom. It's not hard or all that expensive, looks gorgeous, and reduced my water use a LOT! Why people in drought prone areas demand a lawn that looks like a perfect Scottish golf course is kind of crazy. Totally fighting mother nature the whole time. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Generally speaking, watering a lawn shouldn't be recharging an aquifer because that probably means you're significantly overwatering. Plus, most overwatering of lawns that I see returns to the aquifer via storm drains, due to surface runoff. But as a concept, if you water anything in the ground -- crops or grass -- the idea is the same. Some gets consumed by the plant, some gets "consumed" by evaporation, and the rest returns to the system in some fashion, either as surface runoff or groundwater recharge.
    I’d say aquifer recharge from residential use is practically nil. In most western places if you dig down two feet in the middle of watering season, you’ll still find bone dry soil (true here in Spokane and we’re certainly not the desert SW). So water that is put on the lawn and absorbed into the first few inches of soil will generally go into the grass or evaporate over time. Actually it’ll pretty much all evaporate because that’s what’s happening to your green grass too.

    And water that goes through the water treatment plant (most runoff and all sewer) probably gets dumped into the river and goes away, not recharging the aquifer.

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    Jumping back to air travel…

    I hate the fucking boarding process when flying Southwest. Just let me pick a seat or seats when I book my flight and cut the shit. Charge everyone $2-$3 more per flight and that will easily offset any lost revenue for those who pay extra for early bird checkin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    The average Joe doesn't think about water rights here in the rural northeast because in a lot of places, we have too much water. Until we don't. The current drought map for New England that was posted in that other thread was interesting, alarming, and illuminating.
    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    That and the water laws are completely different.
    I have often said that the "water wars" that everyone assumes are coming out West are actually going to happen in the East. While of course it is drier in the West, we have an entirely different set of water laws because of that reality. Our entire legal regime is premised on the notion that there isn't enough water, we know who gets what as the system gets drier.

    In the East, the legal regime in place exists because of abundant water. But due to climate change, we are sure to see droughts and not enough water in some places, sometime. And there are no rules for how that works, who gets what. Anarchy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon3 View Post
    I’d say aquifer recharge from residential use is practically nil. In most western places if you dig down two feet in the middle of watering season, you’ll still find bone dry soil (true here in Spokane and we’re certainly not the desert SW). So water that is put on the lawn and absorbed into the first few inches of soil will generally go into the grass or evaporate over time. Actually it’ll pretty much all evaporate because that’s what’s happening to your green grass too.

    And water that goes through the water treatment plant (most runoff and all sewer) probably gets dumped into the river and goes away, not recharging the aquifer.
    For your first paragraph, isn't that what I said? That generally, there is no recharge from lawn watering, it's all consumptive, or if overwatered, surface runoff.

    As to your second paragraph, while true, it's probably not helpful to think of "aquifer" versus "stream", because in most places they are the same thing, it's just that the surface stream moves faster. Most places there is no "aquifer" to "recharge" that is separate from the surface stream, it is all a question of timing, i.e. when the water hits the stream.

    There are some places where underground aquifers exist that are entirely or mostly separate from surface streams (like the Ogallala) but those are the exceptions rather than the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Jumping back to air travel…

    I hate the fucking boarding process when flying Southwest. Just let me pick a seat or seats when I book my flight and cut the shit. Charge everyone $2-$3 more per flight and that will easily offset any lost revenue for those who pay extra for early bird checkin.
    It's not about that, it's a psychological ploy to get people to line up and charge onto the plane to grab a seat as fast as possible so they can get the planes in the air faster. And it works like a charm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Generally speaking, watering a lawn shouldn't be recharging an aquifer because that probably means you're significantly overwatering.
    So, pretty much what I was saying with my first post. Glad we got back there.

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    The problem with xeriscaping in a place like Sacramento that has a lot of trees is that you still have to water enough to keep the tree alive. While that can be infrequent--once a month for hours, it's still not good for drought adapted plants. The second problem is that drought adapted plants don't like the shade of big trees. You can just not grow anything--although if you're watering the tree something is still going to grow. Another option is artificial grass, which keeps "weeds" from growing but is permeable enough to water the tree through.

    Given the benefit of trees in absorbing CO2 and reducing the temp of tree-lined neighborhoods--a good 10F in Sacramento--it seems to me that at the very least we should be watering enough to keep the trees alive and pray for rain. In places like LV without shade trees it's different. LV has everyone ripping out their lawns.

    BTW I wonder how much the lower temp in green neighborhoods is from the evaporation of all the water applied to the lawns and not just due to the shade.

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    I've always found this interesting about the system of aquifers where I live:

    Columbia Plateau Aquifer System

    The Columbia Plateau Aquifer system is a series of layered aquifers across ~44,000 mi2 of Washington, Oregon, and Idaho. The aquifer system is on the Columbia Plateau, contained within the Cascades, Rocky Mountains, Okanogan Highlands, and the Blue Mountains. These aquifers are bounded on the bottom by a layer of Miocene basaltic rock that can be up to 15,000 ft thick. The primary aquifers in the system are shallow, and unconfined.

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    The primary use of groundwater is for crop irrigation. Areas of the plateau with high surface irrigation have less concern over groundwater depletion due to reinfiltration of excess water into the aquifer system. Areas where groundwater depletion is a concern are in the Umatilla area, and the Palouse slope. In the Umatilla area, total decline since the 1970s is from 300 ft to 100 ft of water height. Overall, between 1968-2009, mean groundwater decline across the aquifer system was at 1.0 ft/year.






    My water right is a surface right out of the Walla Walla river but I also have a secondary right off my well which is not a basalt well.



    Edit/Add: HOLY SMOKES there are a lot of threads on tankless water heaters! Coming in a close second or lawn and water right questions because yanno.... Whiskey's for drinking, water's for fightin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Jumping back to air travel…

    I hate the fucking boarding process when flying Southwest. Just let me pick a seat or seats when I book my flight and cut the shit. Charge everyone $2-$3 more per flight and that will easily offset any lost revenue for those who pay extra for early bird checkin.
    This is why I don’t fly Southwest…..I’ll pay more with Delta/United just to not have to put up with that shit….(although I haven’t flown since pandemic….so every airline would probably piss me off now a days..)

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    Go around landings. Experienced my first one at DFW this weekend. Not a fan.

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    I live near Lake Ontario. The skiing sucks balls, but at least I can water my grass, trees, and gardens with reckless abandon. And top up the pool when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
    Go around landings. Experienced my first one at DFW this weekend. Not a fan.
    You probably liked that better than the alternative though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
    Go around landings. Experienced my first one at DFW this weekend. Not a fan.
    You must not fly often.

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    Bird shit. The birds have been shitting all over my stuff lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Bird shit. The birds have been shitting all over my stuff lately.
    Good thing birds aren't real.

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    Are you at the beach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    You probably liked that better than the alternative though.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    You must not fly often.
    Not in the last two years, but I do try to avoid DFW, where this seems to be not be that unusual.

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    Pigs. They’re loud and they stink. A semi wrecked on I15 yesterday. We ended up holding about 200 pig & piglets for the county yesterday afternoon. I felt bad for them, they were overheating, stressed, and some were injured, so we gave the shade & water until the truck arrived. I’m not sure how many died in the accident. Now our Quonset stinks and is a mess. Bacon, however, is delicious.

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