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  1. #38876
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    Swoop is an airline in Canada that is very, very inexpensive. Like, sometimes you get a plane ticket for $99 kind of inexpensive. Checked bags and carry-on will cost you $89, and pretty much everything else you'd ever want or need on a plane will cost extra. But you pay for what you use, so it's cool. I like to fly between the smaller airports that they operate from (to keep costs down). Total price all-in for me and wife + kids was $1500 from Hamilton>Abbotsford>Hamilton. Usually this costs $2k+ so yes it's a good deal.

    Aaaaanyway - hopping on board the plane with the wife and kids on Sunday evening in Abbotsford. Flight already is late and I watched this thing land, people get off, and boarding for our flight immediately starts with basically zero turn-around time on the plane. This is perfect since we are currently scheduled to get to Hamilton at 1:40am.

    Wife and kids are 2nd last row, and I've got a seat in the aisle right behind them. Back of the plane is open for boarding so we wait and are essentially the last ones on the thing. I get in, kids and wife sit down in their empty row, and my seat has some guy in it with his wife in the middle seat. Whatever, "skootch over please" so I can sit down and we can GTFO. They tell me they need to speak with someone because there's garbage on the floor. Fine, whatever, I cram in with my family so they can take care of this issue. Must be pretty gross down there.

    They tell the FA that there is garbage on the floor, she looks, and says 'sorry about that, they quickly vacuumed the plane and this is what we're left with.' They then say there are quite a lot of crumbs and chips and this is not acceptable. This triggers me. "CRUMBS AND CHIPS??!! Listen, you need to move over and sit down so I can do the same and we can get the hell out of here." Now they're mad at me, they say I'm being a dick (probably true) and they expected better service for the money they spent on the ticket. They're upset because they have to "put their stuff in this mess." I look and see about 5 goldfish crackers and some smushed up pringles - that's it. Grab a napkin from my bag, reach across this dude and sweep the crumbs away with my face in random guy's crotch. "There."

    Like WTF man, you're in the very last row of a plane, flying with literally the cheapest airline in Canada and you want them to meticulously clean everything for you on a plane that travels 12,000km a day? It's basically a bus in the sky.

    I enjoyed having people's asses in my face for the majority of the ride while they waited for the shitter, people leaving the lavatory door open when they were finished (smells great, thanks!), and a few maskless kids breathing their stank on me while they waited to piss/shit/whatever. But this is part of air travel, and you get what you pay for. 10/10 would fly again.

  2. #38877
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    Yup. City bus in the sky. Terrifying if you stop to think aboot it. Having to fly everywhere is one thing I'd have a hard time with if I lived in Canada. I don't really like flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    Yup. City bus in the sky. Terrifying if you stop to think aboot it. Having to fly everywhere is one thing I'd have a hard time with if I lived in Canada. I don't really like flying.
    More likely to die in a bus crash vs. airplane though. I don't actually have the stats for this I'm just throwing this out there like I know it's a fact.

    Nobody "enjoys" flying, but it's pretty damn cool to drag my fat meat sack across an entire continent in a few hours.

  4. #38879
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    I'm probably going to have to resort to tranquilizers to fly again after COVID. It was bad enough having to be in close proximity to that many people before this. I don't really like anywhere that has more than a few people or they are packed in tight. The six foot spacing required in the grocery checkout during social distancing was a welcome relief.

  5. #38880
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    As far as the safety thing, my buddy once told me, "hey if the pilot will get on it so will I".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    As far as the safety thing, my buddy once told me, "hey if the pilot will get on it so will I".
    No. That's not why I hate flying. If I had the whole plane to myself and it was large with ample room around me, I'd be happy. City bus on the ground I can just grit my teeth and it will be over soon.

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    agoraphobia? my uncle had that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted reborn View Post
    agoraphobia? my uncle had that.
    Never thought about that, just assumed I was weird.

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    Moving my family across the country in 4 days. Boxing up 25 years of shit……one could say a wee bit stressful. Made a Uhaul reservation 6 weeks ago. Find out yesterday they moved my pick up location from my town to 170 miles south of me. WTF Uhaul. I cancelled it and booked a new reservation and now have to drive 60 miles to pick up a smaller truck for the same price.

    Car shippers booked a month ago. They were supposed to come yesterday. Now the word is they don’t have anybody to take the load.

    I feel like I’m in a Seinfeld loop. “You know how to take a reservation” but you don’t know how to keep the reservation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    I'm probably going to have to resort to tranquilizers to fly again after COVID. It was bad enough having to be in close proximity to that many people before this. I don't really like anywhere that has more than a few people or they are packed in tight. The six foot spacing required in the grocery checkout during social distancing was a welcome relief.
    At this point I will not fret If I never have to get on a plane again…. Fuck that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    I'm probably going to have to resort to tranquilizers to fly again after COVID. It was bad enough having to be in close proximity to that many people before this. I don't really like anywhere that has more than a few people or they are packed in tight. The six foot spacing required in the grocery checkout during social distancing was a welcome relief.
    I'm going to start using tranquilizers in my daily life. Everything gets way easier...

  13. #38888
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    I'm going to start using tranquilizers in my daily life. Everything gets way easier...
    Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    Having to fly everywhere is one thing I'd have a hard time with if I lived in Canada.
    Canada has a road. Just don't go the wrong way.

    And watch out for Scott. He's a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    Canada has a road. Just don't go the wrong way.

    And watch out for Scott. He's a dick.
    Yeah, fuck Scott.

    Dave’s in Canada are generally nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by riser4 View Post
    I'm probably going to have to resort to tranquilizers to fly again after COVID. It was bad enough having to be in close proximity to that many people before this. I don't really like anywhere that has more than a few people or they are packed in tight. The six foot spacing required in the grocery checkout during social distancing was a welcome relief.
    At least in Canada you still have to wear a mask on airplanes and in airport terminals (although there are some dumbasses who don't and think the rules don't apply to them). I like it better - hope it stays this way on the planes at least. People can't be trusted to not fly if they are sick - and how could they be, when it's such a pain and expensive to change a flight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyrdr View Post
    I feel like I’m in a Seinfeld loop. “You know how to take a reservation” but you don’t know how to keep the reservation.
    "Would you like to purchase insurance?"
    "Yes, you better, because I'm going to beat the shit out of this car."

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    Shit that annoys you

    Quote Originally Posted by paulster2626 View Post
    At least in Canada you still have to wear a mask on airplanes and in airport terminals (although there are some dumbasses who don't and think the rules don't apply to them). I like it better - hope it stays this way on the planes at least. People can't be trusted to not fly if they are sick - and how could they be, when it's such a pain and expensive to change a flight...
    Wearing masks on airplanes is like closing only 3 out 4 doors on a submarine.

    What good does wearing a mask on an airplane do if passengers are allowed to take it off when eating?

    I read this somewhere recently… If you’re really worried about Covid while traveling by plane, wear a properly fitting N95 mask while in the airport, boarding and all the way through take-off. Once the plane is airborne, there should be enough airflow to minimize the risk of going massless. Then, once back on the ground, put the mask back on.
    Because rich has nothing to do with money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Wearing masks on airplanes is like closing only 3 out 4 doors on a submarine.

    What good does wearing a mask on an airplane do if passengers are allowed to take it off when eating?
    Really? We're so far in to this mask business now and you still haven't figured it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulster2626 View Post
    Really? We're so far in to this mask business now and you still haven't figured it out?
    Obviously I haven’t. Care to enlighten me how the mouth breathing idiot sitting shoulder-to-shoulder next to me won’t spread Covid when he takes his mask off to eat for 30 minutes?
    Because rich has nothing to do with money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    Obviously I haven’t. Care to enlighten me how the mouth breathing idiot sitting shoulder-to-shoulder next to me won’t spread Covid when he takes his mask off to eat for 30 minutes?
    Yeah, those gourmet meals on the plane take 30 minutes to eat. More like five.

    There's never going to be 100% mask compliance, but it seems like something is better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Yeah, those gourmet meals on the plane take 30 minutes to eat. More like five.

    There's never going to be 100% mask compliance, but it seems like something is better than nothing.
    Since condoms occasionally fail, it's better to bareback it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Yeah, those gourmet meals on the plane take 30 minutes to eat. More like five.

    There's never going to be 100% mask compliance, but it seems like something is better than nothing.
    The “mouth breathing idiot” was an implication that he’ll take advantage of the “no mask while eating” exception and take 30 minutes even if it is just a bag of fucking peanuts.

    If you’re not going to get 100% compliance, the mask mandate doesn’t help. People are too selfish to wear a mask to protect others. It just takes one idiot to ruin for the rest.

    If you want protection, you need to take it upon yourself and wear a properly fitting N95.

    I ride NYC mass transit several times a week. The majority of riders are not wearing masks at this point… even as they are still required. It’s a lost cause, even if the condom breaks occasionally.
    Because rich has nothing to do with money.

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    And just to keep it on topic… people not adhering to a mask mandate annoys me.
    Because rich has nothing to do with money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    And just to keep it on topic… people not adhering to a mask mandate annoys me.
    Then what exactly are you arguing about?

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