Shit that annoys you

[californiagrown]

I do, however, judge interview candidates who can’t figure it the fuck out.

PEBKAC.

Really though. You better blow me away to overcome not figuring out how to log into a Teams meeting, and then having to let your cat out of the room mid meeting. JFC, that's doing NONE of the baseline easy stuff well.

[yeahman]

I prefer zoom, but I use teams all day long internally and externally too, and it’s fine.

I do, however, judge interview candidates who can’t figure it the fuck out.

PEBKAC.

That's fair. Figure it out ahead of time or what does that say about you.

My kids will be well prepared as they have been using Teams for high school classes since Covid. I think the pandemic benefited them as high schoolers entering a virtual work world. And the schools have stuck with it since then for certain things. In a way it benefited schools and teachers to be forced into virtual learning. Now it's just another tool. But if not for Covid they would still be dragging their feet.

[jono]

By "externally" I mean sending invites to people outside of my organization who may or may not have Teams installed on their machine.

There's a difference between the experience you're having when someone else is an external user and what they experience. I don't have problems with it as a team member, either.

As a guest, it's reliably a mess for anything but screen sharing. I've been speculating that the days-old message issue correlates with internal users adding extra devices and not getting all their notifications anymore, but I'm not adding mobile just to test the theory. On the upside, I'm not close enough to test it on theirs.

[evdog]

Private equity annoys me.

I got a bit of equity in my last company as a retention bonus when we were acquired by a PE firm some years ago. As PE firms do they leveraged the shit out of the deal and funded it with debt. The company got saddled with the interest payments on the debt. In addition the PE firm took massive management fees out of the company while making monumentally stupid strategic decisions. These things perpetually wiped out profits. As a result no staff received bonuses after the acquisition because they were tied to profitability.

Just got an email from the company: "After a comprehensive strategic review and company's pending debt maturity, sale of the company was finalized on July 31. Due to a combination of company's debt balance and a pullback of sector valuations, transaction proceeds are below the value of the debt. The lender was supportive of the transaction, but unfortunately there are no equity proceeds."

Another great company ruined by private equity

[Core Shot]

Yes, you're right to be perturbed, but blasting the front line office people is never, ever the right thing to do.

The exception I can think of is the callers who want to buy our house who constantly bombard us, virtually daily. I'm incredibly cruel to those chumps, leading them on with feigned interest and asking for contacts and references until I suggest that they should try to better their lives rather than being some loser schmuck cold calling donotcall numbers, usually icing the call with a loud FUCK YOU DO NOT CALL US.

Agree. I’m always telling the front line “I know you are just the messenger trapped in a shit show.” It eases the tension that might just get them to help you.

Have a friend with too much time on his hands. Answers telemarketers and talks about imaginary problems like cheating wife child support problems getting a hard on or going back to prison.
Works every time. They don’t call back.
My approach if I accidentally answer is politely say “sorry your job sucks being stuck in a cubicle annoying people all day long”

But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

[MontuckyFried]

I prefer zoom, but I use teams all day long internally and externally too, and it’s fine.

I do, however, judge interview candidates who can’t figure it the fuck out.

PEBKAC.

Perhaps you missed the part where I did several dry runs PERFECTLY fine. I know how to use Teams. The problem was not user error. It was 100% on Teams' end. Did some digging to see if I could avoid the problem in the future and according to MS tech support, my problems were not a glitch after all but are BY DESIGN. Yeah, this makes me hate the software even more. So for those being like "WeLL, I haVe TeaMS at WorK and iT's TOtalLY fiNE!," that's because it IS fine within an organization. The good thing is my camera was working and the interviewer saw me. I just had no idea what I was looking like since my camera window was grayed out.

According to MS tech support:

...most likely you are chatting, make audio or video call with someone who uses a work account. It's a current limitation between users with a work or school account (managed by an organization) and users with a personal account and vice versa. By design, you won't be able to join a Teams meeting from the Teams personal app if the meeting organizer uses a work account. Instead, you'll be joining from the Teams for work/school app (if you select this option), as a guest.

It is important to note that you should not sign in.

No wonder it got tripped up and then why when I finally came in as a guest, I didn't have my options any longer.

Really though. You better blow me away to overcome not figuring out how to log into a Teams meeting, and then having to let your cat out of the room mid meeting. JFC, that's doing NONE of the baseline easy stuff well.

I was logged in, and THAT'S what it didn't like. See MS tech support response above. Being logged in on my desktop app is what was screwing it all up. And perhaps you can't read, but I had no idea my cat was in there until it wanted out. Was batting at the door, then increasingly hard until there was no way I (or the interviewer) could possibly ignore it. Door's like 4 feet from my desk so I had to step away from the camera for like 2 seconds as I politely excused myself to let her out. Told the interviewer what was happening and she got laugh out of it and said it was totally fine. Interviewer (and possible future boss) really was cool. Good thing I let kitty out tho! She basically filled her litter box upon her exit. What would you have done? Have your cat shit all over your office while you're presenting? Wasn't ideal but such is our modern web-based interviews. NONE of this would have happened in the good old days of in-person interviews at the office.

You guys must be a joy to work for with your constant condescension and expectations of 100% Teams Indian IT tech support proficiency. It's all good though. I've had enough GOOD interviews lately (that used Zoom) where I absolutely nailed them and have moved on to the next rounds. Have a big interview in 2 weeks before a panel of executives where I have to present a project for several hours. Hell yeah!

[Touring_Sedan]

Perhaps you missed the part where I did several dry runs PERFECTLY fine. I know how to use Teams. The problem was not user error. It was 100% on Teams' end. Did some digging to see if I could avoid the problem in the future and according to MS tech support, my problems were not a glitch after all but are BY DESIGN. Yeah, this makes me hate the software even more. So for those being like "WeLL, I haVe TeaMS at WorK and iT's TOtalLY fiNE!," that's because it IS fine within an organization. The good thing is my camera was working and the interviewer saw me. I just had no idea what I was looking like since my camera window was grayed out.

According to MS tech support:

No wonder it got tripped up and then why when I finally came in as a guest, I didn't have my options any longer.


I was logged in, and THAT'S what it didn't like. See MS tech support response above. Being logged in on my desktop app is what was screwing it all up. And perhaps you can't read, but I had no idea my cat was in there until it wanted out. Was batting at the door, then increasingly hard until there was no way I (or the interviewer) could possibly ignore it. Door's like 4 feet from my desk so I had to step away from the camera for like 2 seconds as I politely excused myself to let her out. Told the interviewer what was happening and she got laugh out of it and said it was totally fine. Interviewer (and possible future boss) really was cool. Good thing I let kitty out tho! She basically filled her litter box upon her exit. What would you have done? Have your cat shit all over your office while you're presenting? Wasn't ideal but such is our modern web-based interviews. NONE of this would have happened in the good old days of in-person interviews at the office.

You guys must be a joy to work for with your constant condescension and expectations of 100% Teams Indian IT tech support proficiency. It's all good though. I've had enough GOOD interviews lately (that used Zoom) where I absolutely nailed them and have moved on to the next rounds. Have a big interview in 2 weeks before a panel of executives where I have to present a project for several hours. Hell yeah!

My dog ate my homework.

[MontuckyFried]

My dog ate my homework.

Nah. Still "turned in my homework." Like I said, I just looked forward at the camera and carried on as if everything was fine. Screenshares worked thankfully. In the end, the more I think about it, the more I think I did aight despite Teams pissing me off. These are great jobs that I've been among hundreds, sometimes thousands, of applicants that get whittled down to maybe top 10 then final few. Takes months for all of them. Actually got selected for one role earlier this week after SIX rounds of interviews and follow-up meetings with directors and execs, but then as my luck would have it the entire project got put on hold while they get their poop in a group. ...le sigh... Will be worth it though as I'm really excited about this next phase in my career. Super stoked to finally be getting the traction I SHOULD have had years ago. The winds have finally shifted in my favor tho, so I'm happy as can be. Aside from Teams that is.

[skaredshtles]

<snip These are great jobs

Heh... so young and naïve.

[MontuckyFried]

Heh... so young and naïve.

Hahaha. Perhaps, my friend. Perhaps. Really am excited to get in on this, though. Believe it or not, living in MT (plus hanging out with all you knuckleheads) has made me a bit of an environmentalist/hippie-lite, and I've been working for many years to get into something that is more beneficial to our planet. What have you guys done to me?! Haha. Whether the actual job is any good or not, it's the field I'm excited to transition over to. Same exact type of work (that I've been doing since 'Nam - Ok, not really, but since 2006), different aspect to the industry. 100% transferable skilz. Will say more perhaps AFTER I land one of these roles.

[halliday]

Nah. Still "turned in my homework." Like I said, I just looked forward at the camera and carried on as if everything was fine. Screenshares worked thankfully. In the end, the more I think about it, the more I think I did aight despite Teams pissing me off. These are great jobs that I've been among hundreds, sometimes thousands, of applicants that get whittled down to maybe top 10 then final few. Takes months for all of them. Actually got selected for one role earlier this week after SIX rounds of interviews and follow-up meetings with directors and execs, but then as my luck would have it the entire project got put on hold while they get their poop in a group. ...le sigh... Will be worth it though as I'm really excited about this next phase in my career. Super stoked to finally be getting the traction I SHOULD have had years ago. The winds have finally shifted in my favor tho, so I'm happy as can be. Aside from Teams that is.

Im curious, what is this job that you are trying to nail down?

[halliday]

Since we are on the job topic, one thing that is annoying to me is when people ask for my resume. I don't mean to sound like a prick but asking for my resume for a drilling project (OK I get it I do a lot of experimental drilling in weird man made and natural formations, lots of it construction/infrastructure related). I threw my resume into the bin fifteen years ago. If somebody needs to know where Ive been and what kind of things Ive done I will happily provide a couple of references for them to call. No. We require a resume. OK then, Im heading back to Savannah. Wait, let's keep drilling because the project is going to be behind schedule. The fuckers from the MBTA couldn't find their assholes if they used both hands and a flashlight.

[PNWbrit]

Extended family of wife's deceased step-mother (2021) are now attempting to get wife to voluntarily - there's not a hope in hell of formally challenging either will - give huge $ from her father's estate (2023) to step-mother's great nephews/nieces.

[Mustonen]

You guys must be a joy to work for with your constant condescension and expectations of 100% Teams Indian IT tech support proficiency.

I work with lots of great people who love their jobs and don’t seem to mind. Of course, they can all figure out how to navigate lowest common denominator shit like meeting software because we weeded out the riff raff at the top.



Mostly giving you shit. Though if I don’t see somebody try to join the meeting at least ten minutes early and then struggle with the software, well…. Figure that’s a potentially dodged bullet and I care as much about that as I do about whatever bullshit answer they’re gonna give me to whatever bullshit question I’m gonna ask.

[Rideski]

It annoys me when I log in ten minutes early and they pop on and want to get rolling immediately.

[Rideski]

Just got my first national election spam text of the year, on one of my more private phone numbers. Gonna be a rough the one.

[PNWbrit]

on one of my more private phone numbers.

We're impressed.

[plugboots]

Extended family of wife's deceased step-mother (2021) are now attempting to get wife to voluntarily - there's not a hope in hell of formally challenging either will - give huge $ from her father's estate (2023) to step-mother's great nephews/nieces.

I guess they figure why not give it a shot?

[old goat]

Just got my first national election spam text of the year, on one of my more private phone numbers. Gonna be a rough the one.

Shit, I've been getting them nonstop for years for national and state elections (not just my own state either).

[Rideski]

Yabut meant current potus election. It's been 3.5 years.

[PNWbrit]

I guess they figure why not give it a shot?

I've been staying out of it.

But I'm sooo fucking close to letting rip on them.

[cat in january]

So long as the wife is cool with it, not much to loose with the relatives.

[Mustonen]

You could try just a “no, we won’t be doing that, and we won’t be discussing it either” and ignore it from then on. No equivocating. No being polite. No telling them what you really think.

You probably did. But a thing that annoys me is that people have an incredibly difficult time communicating with clear and forceful messaging when it’s needed, and add apologies and reasonings and rationales and so much extra shit that does nothing other than provide fodder for ongoing argument and debate.

[plugboots]

You could try just a “no, we won’t be doing that, and we won’t be discussing it either” and ignore it from then on. No equivocating. No being polite. No telling them what you really think.

You probably did. But a thing that annoys me is that people have an incredibly difficult time communicating with clear and forceful messaging when it’s needed, and add apologies and reasonings and rationales and so much extra shit that does nothing other than provide fodder for ongoing argument and debate.

Right? I’m not saying it’s going on here with PNW, but it fucking drives me nuts. Say what you mean and leave it.
BTW, my wife is an estate tax attorney so it’s never over till it’s oooooooovvveeerrrr.

[old goat]

IME things go to shit when the inlaws get involved iwth wills. My brother and I and the other heirs had no problems dealing with my mom's estate but our wives found plenty to fight over. Same thing happened with my wife's mom's estate--wife's sister in law got nasty, especially over the Miro (until she found out it was Gene Miro, not Joan. Since when did Joan Miro paint stone bridges over streams.) At one point she threatened my wife with arrest for taking something (that was labelled on the back by her mom for her.)