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Thread: How to choose boot flex?
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02-04-2013, 08:22 AM #26
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11-17-2022, 04:06 PM #27Registered User
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How stiff is too stiff?
I'm an avid snowboarder(female) and am buying my first ski setup. Lost on what flex to get. I'm an aggressive snowboarder and run stiff boots. I'm optimistically thinking I'll progress pretty quickly on skis so I don't want to go too soft. I'm about 130lbs but have strong legs, debating between the Atomic Hawx Prime 95s and 105s. Anyone got any advice?
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11-17-2022, 04:29 PM #28features a sintered base
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Have you skied at all before? If you're really starting from zero, even with a snowboarding background, I'd still probably borrow/rent boots softer than the 105's. That said, you probably could go with the 95's and deal with them and be happy for a few years at least (also, I thought they ran 110/100/90, not 105/95).
If you could borrow some more intermediate skier boots for part of a season then maybe you could get your own 110ish boots and be set.[quote][//quote]
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11-17-2022, 05:22 PM #29
Fuck. Can’t tell you shit with out some pics of said girl friend. Other wise pick the red ones.
but in all seriousness my other half is in a Frankenstein roxa 80 cuff and a roxa 105 clog for the pin toes and loves it. Easy to get into, easy to take off, (that’s the most important, )
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11-17-2022, 05:37 PM #30
Biggest learning curve for a new boarder is re-learning your edges on the sides of your foot rather than your toes and heels. IMO get the boot that's the correct width and holds your heel down, then make sure the forward lean is enough to actually begin flexing the boot, then think about flex. as long as you're not going 120+ you'll probably be aiight, but make sure you address the first two things first.
You need some specifics on your foot shape to get a better sense of direction on here otherwise. There are threads here outlining how to use some of the apps to help yourself out in getting a specific foot measurement.
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11-17-2022, 06:02 PM #31
My wife is in 130 flex race boots and loves them.
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11-17-2022, 06:17 PM #32
Nekkid pics.
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11-17-2022, 06:41 PM #33
Too stiff of boots may hold you back initially but sounds like you’re going to put in the time if you are buying ski equipment
so maybe look at boots where you can switch out tongues for stiffer ones once you progress. I use Full Tilt boots (now K2) which have this feature.
Also above someone mentioned getting in and out of ski boots after being in snowboard boots and the Full Tilts and other 3 buckle boots are good in the ease/ comfort of getting them on and offskid luxury
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11-17-2022, 08:48 PM #34Registered User
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My dad has a friend who fits your description and was asking me this same question recently.
The earlier advice to listen to the shop is spot on. As is baby bear's advice to look at swappable tongues.
In general, you want a boot that you can at least flex into on the carpet. I think flexing a boot is a combination of strength and technique though, so don't be too put off if you struggle a little at first.
I also think that when a boot doesn't fit well in the heel/ankle/instep area, you can't generate the power to flex it. Your foot moves in the shell before the cuff flexes. For example, I've had trouble flexing some touring boots that objectively aren't super stiff, but no issues flexing race boots that are considered very stiff. (It can also be difficult to carpet-flex a boot with a highly rockered sole, as is common on light touring boots, but that's a different topic.)"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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11-17-2022, 10:47 PM #35
Boots can be softened but not stiffened (except as babybear describes). Flex doesn't depend only on skier weight and speed. It also depends on length of your leg from knee to foot and on how flexible your ankle is. You can't flex a boot any farther than your ankle will flex.
Maybe you can get a rec for a shop or a fitter from a woman prfessional skier (patrol, instructor) or racer. Not a lot of women fitters around but maybe one wherever it is you are.
My DIL is not big but an ex mtb racer with big calves and ankles. She's an intermediate and happy in a 120 Atomic Hawk of some kind.
Good advice from Darth on making sure there's good heel hold. Definitely buy from a good shop unless you have no access to one. A decent shop will do free adjustments for a year, sometimes longer. If you can't get a rec like I said, use your BS meter to tell you if a male fitter takes women skiers seriously or you'll wind up with something very warm and comfortable that you can't ski with. (Not that a properly fitting boot can't be comfortable, but usually not right out of the box.)
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11-18-2022, 05:52 AM #36
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11-18-2022, 07:44 AM #37
Can someone not recommending stiff boots in this thread tell me why boot flex is better than making sure the binding/boot are aligned right and we can adjust forward pressure using our knees,hips and spines?
I have some 130 Panterra and some 130 Mach 1 MV , they are aligned exactly like my highly modiefied Kr2 pros(double plug in back and carbon slats epoxy in the side) and my DRS 170s and they wear me the fuck out skiing them. I am convinced being able flex your ankles is a scam at this point and just band aid to fix poor equipment alignment.
Someone objectively prove me wrong with out resort ing ad hoc, or strawman or acedontal account of Cody townsend talking about how people are over boot with out him stating any objectivity why a stiff boot aligned correctly is an issue.
For reference I have no issue skiing in a boot I literally can not flex.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZczsKuAspG/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZuyRoMrcaO/
Please post video of you skiing in soft boot so I have reference to your skill level.
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11-18-2022, 07:45 AM #38
why do boot need to be flexxed into turn objectively?
Would nt any boot flex just slow input from the skiers leg/foot to the skis?
BTW I agree with the stiff boots comment and if you read above I find 130 recreationally boots are total chore to ski on, unless on smooth groomers.
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11-18-2022, 07:48 AM #39
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11-18-2022, 07:55 AM #40
eh its pointless.
A bunch of people will just post subjective non sense and repeat the same shit about boot flex and ankles needing to flex, wont post video of their skiing. Basically the bad advice keep getting thrown around for ever because no one want to shim their binding or ramp their boots to get proper alignment.
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11-18-2022, 08:30 AM #41
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11-18-2022, 09:04 AM #42
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11-18-2022, 09:11 AM #43
^^^ https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ighlight=Strap
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11-18-2022, 09:16 AM #44Registered User
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11-18-2022, 09:17 AM #45
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11-18-2022, 09:18 AM #46
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11-18-2022, 09:21 AM #47
[QUOTE=TBS;6731908]^^^ https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ighlight=Strap
Back seat on the 900* run of death
What makes it backseat?
You really do not understand how a skier would have to move.
The open bet still stands and I can pay up. If I am hack its easy money.
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11-18-2022, 09:25 AM #48
Obviously you do not
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Ad Hominem is when I say you are the dumbest mutherfucker in The USA and the absolute shittiest dolphin turner on TGR
learn the difference pendejo
AND, my racer kids are still waiting to for the free travel you promised to ski your run of death
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11-18-2022, 09:26 AM #49
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11-18-2022, 09:27 AM #50
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