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  1. #576
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    I'm mostly asking because my only experience on a wide-waisted pow ski was a L120. Just going off dimensions and reading this whole thread, it's sounding like Kusala Hybrids may be more my style. If anyone's holding.............?

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    PM Gear Kusala pow

    If we ever get a big storm again, I have some 8lb 190 120 pures I'm looking to take out. Can probably give you an idea of how different they are then. I fully expect them to want to hang on in a turn more than the Kusalas, but we'll see. I think they'll want to plow more too rather than spear through the snow.

  3. #578
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    Yeah, if you want to fill in a little gap in my ski knowledge I'd appreciate it.

  4. #579
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    Finally mounted my Kusalas today.
    Picked them up from kevino awhile back.
    If memory serves they are either the first pair of pure Kusala's that Pat pressed, or the first pair pure's with a layer of rubber.
    Taking them and the 191 Lhasa Fats up to the mountain for the next week and praying for powder.

    Pretty excited to get on them.
    I hope I like them.

    On a side note I took a nice core shot (~12" long with 4" of exposed core) to my Lhasa Fats the other day.
    When I took them to the shop, the tech said: "Whoah!! Shot of the season!"
    Thank God it wasn't near an edge.
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  5. #580
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    I wasn't sure how I would feel about the Kusalas having never skied a reverse camber / standard sidecut ski (although not much sidecut).
    But, after two days of lapping ~8-12" of pow at speed in tight trees, both steep and meadowy, I have to say that the Kusalas are magic.

    So intuitive.
    Think about turning and one does.
    I found myself hauling ass through the trees and shooting through the tightest gaps (sometimes blind) knowing that I could link a turn on the other side.
    Extraordinarily playful (at least compared to Lhasa Fats).
    I actually felt a little jibby.
    Extremely easy to ski, and I had noticeably less fatigue at the end of the day vs. what I normally experience after a pow day with the Fats.
    I attribute that primarily to the more upright stance that the Kusalas engender.
    Cut up variable snow like butta'.

    However, the Lhasa Fats are way more fun above treeline on open steeps.
    Below treeline in tighter areas, the Kusalas were money.
    For crushing big lines in open bowls, I love the Lhasa Fats (but they typically cramp out my quads by days end).
    Last edited by pfluffenmeister; 02-25-2017 at 07:04 PM.
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  6. #581
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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Hybrid is 9-10 and pure is sub 9 usually. Layup is not really the test IMO cause he was known to monkey with stiffness. My Kusalhasa are 9.5 hybrid.
    Huh. Mine are extra stiff hybrids. Wonder if they go to 11.

    Did not get much touring in this season with the 5/6 yr old in tow most days. But is was sure fun to be on the Kusala the few days I got. Forgot how fun they are to ski.

  7. #582
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    Gearswap feeler. The garage is too full and I need to sell some skis.

    186 Kusala Pows, pure layup with extra rubber. 2nd owner, 2nd mount. Currently have 1st gen Vipecs on the line for 308 BSL.

  8. #583
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    Kusalas are still magic!

    Upper lift finally opened at MJ (closed until late 2nd day for their 2-day 11" event).
    Couple feet of moderately wind affected pow up top.
    Fast lift line laps.
    They make great landing platforms.
    Finally got that stupid pitch essentially untouched (like 5 times WOOT-WOOT!).



    edit: Kid in line said that they look like they have "Some Flavor Shape!".
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  9. #584
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    WTF does that even mean? Lmao

  10. #585
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    ^^^ Right?

    Could tell it was definitely a good thing though.
    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  11. #586
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    Got mine out yesterday. Great fun!

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  12. #587
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGamms View Post
    Gearswap feeler. The garage is too full and I need to sell some skis.

    186 Kusala Pows, pure layup with extra rubber. 2nd owner, 2nd mount. Currently have 1st gen Vipecs on the line for 308 BSL.
    Didju sell?

  13. #588
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Didju sell?
    Yep, Kusalas have sold.

  14. #589
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    Just skied my Kusala's two deep days in Jackson.
    Boot top to thigh deep (some balls deep)
    Sooooo fun.
    This ski should be repressed next summer.

    Nudge-nudge, wink=wink

    In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...

  15. #590
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Just skied my Kusala's two deep days in Jackson.
    Boot top to thigh deep (some balls deep)
    Sooooo fun.
    This ski should be repressed next summer.

    Nudge-nudge, wink=wink

    FKNA!

    Those skis had ' all the young dudes ' in the tram line either quivering in want or cowering in fear. Sweet sticks and he was getting sum. A lot of sum.

    Been a great cycle, my new friend.

  16. #591
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    If probably buy a pair if I could get like 192 instead of 186. Love mine just wish they were a little longer.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

  17. #592
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    I picked up one of Otto Parts's old pairs this fall and have only gotten to ski it once so far since low tide lifted. Was a day of 8" of blower, and they were awesome. Really fun skiing hard down the fall line. I got on the lift at one point after hauling ass down a groomed runout then realized I'd just railed down a groomer on 124mm underfoot skis. Can't wait to get more time on them.

  18. #593
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chugachjed View Post
    If probably buy a pair if I could get like 192 instead of 186. Love mine just wish they were a little longer.
    Iíd be interested if you felt like letting them go

  19. #594
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    I wasn't sure how I would feel about the Kusalas having never skied a reverse camber / standard sidecut ski (although not much sidecut).
    But, after two days of lapping ~8-12" of pow at speed in tight trees, both steep and meadowy, I have to say that the Kusalas are magic.

    So intuitive.
    Think about turning and one does.
    I found myself hauling ass through the trees and shooting through the tightest gaps (sometimes blind) knowing that I could link a turn on the other side.
    Extraordinarily playful (at least compared to Lhasa Fats).
    I actually felt a little jibby.
    Extremely easy to ski, and I had noticeably less fatigue at the end of the day vs. what I normally experience after a pow day with the Fats.
    I attribute that primarily to the more upright stance that the Kusalas engender.
    Cut up variable snow like butta'.

    However, the Lhasa Fats are way more fun above treeline on open steeps.
    Below treeline in tighter areas, the Kusalas were money.
    For crushing big lines in open bowls, I love the Lhasa Fats (but they typically cramp out my quads by days end).
    Totally agree with every word.

  20. #595
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    PM Gear Kusala pow

    So I have kusala and what I call a kusalhasa. That is a 186 Lhasa fat pressed with kusala reverse camber. It is one of my favorites since it does everything well and is really quick but also stable.

    But I rode kusala yesterday in a foot of 8-10Ē snow at my home mountain. It is just so fast and I can go straight all day then just flick heel and turn. With the straight shape they are super stable and in fact really easy to ski.

    Pat has mad scientist engineered a really sick ski that can be run but also slays trees. I found myself just looking for features, with speed and then just slash and cut where I wanted.

    They eat vertical and I had some going too fast and taking pine branches with me moments. Hats off pat. Great high stoke day for me for sure

    Not the best pic but I got the pole point and Iím smiling all the way.

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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16

    2018/2019 (24/32)

  21. #596
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    ^ Nice man, glad you're digging the hell out of them.

  22. #597
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    Fuck yeah. I really, really want to get on a pair of those. Seem like Renegades^2

  23. #598
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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Fuck yeah. I really, really want to get on a pair of those. Seem like Renegades^2
    Thatís what it felt like. Fixes minor renegade shortfalls and lighter. Not quite as submarine either
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16

    2018/2019 (24/32)

  24. #599
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    Yup, still loving mine. itís alpine season out here though so they wonít get much use the rest of the season.

  25. #600
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    This ski should be repressed next summer.

    Nudge-nudge, wink=wink

    This needs a bump!

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