Lance Armstrong Banned

[TeleAl]

So, now we know Lance is a liar.

He is a person who thinks, if it cannot be proven, then it must be false.
Same mentality on WMD took us into Iraq.
Must be a Texan thing.




As for Pete Rose, until I hear he bet against his team, then I fully support him
because betting on your team is what everyone should be doing.

[spook]

So, now we know Lance is a liar.

He is a person who thinks, if it cannot be proven, then it must be false.
Same mentality on WMD took us into Iraq.
Must be a Texan thing.

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actually, it's perfect for capitalism and the u.s. govt. it's not a texas or party thing. the golden rule has always been if you're not cheating, you're not trying. the law protects the early cheaters from most of the later cheaters.

[weibo]

He's going to throw the UCI and his old US Postal owners under the bus. He will try to come off as a pawn in the game. The collusion of the UCI and his team payments to make positive test go away. He will work that angle heavy.

[Benny Profane]

Some may say he's lacking any sort of credibility in future testimony, I'm guessing. Maybe a jury of cancer survivors might see it his way, otherwise.....

[MotherFucker]

Wife of Frankie Andreu was just on SportsCenter and ripped Armstrong a huge new asshole. It was as scathing as an interview as I've ever heard.

This will only make him look worse IMO.

[iscariot]

Hey, someone should start a band called the "Lance Armstrong Banned".

[PNWbrit]

He's going to throw the UCI and his old US Postal owners under the bus. He will try to come off as a pawn in the game. The collusion of the UCI and his team payments to make positive test go away. He will work that angle heavy.

Maybe something in that, his mea culpa doesn't make much sense given the number of people lining up outside the door suing him for their money back... plus the USPS whistle-blower suit.

[spook]

lance doesn't remember what it feels like to lose big.

that said, when he was stomping the shit out of everybody, wasn't he mostly stomping the shit out of other dopers? any different than the nfl? any pro sport?

[iscariot]

This seems about right...

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/cycling/sto...admission.html

The big question this week is not whether Lance Armstrong cheated (we know he did) but why he has decided to admit it now.

Armstrong has spent well over a decade vehemently denying he used performance-enhancing drugs, and has stayed almost totally silent since the USADA decision last fall that concluded he perpetrated the biggest doping scandal professional sports has ever seen.

So why confess, even in a limited way, to Oprah Winfrey now?

The short answer is money.

It’s been reported that Armstrong is keen to have his lifetime ban relaxed so he can compete in elite triathlons, which are sanctioned by the World Anti-Doping Code. Usually the stated motive for this has been, “Lance is driven to compete” and “he can’t live without competing against others at the highest level” or some variation on that.

But a report in the Wall Street Journal mentions an unnamed source who says Armstrong sees competing in triathlons as his most reliable source of future income.

This makes a lot more sense.

Armstrong’s net worth is estimated to be more than $100 million US. However, never has that fortune been less secure than it is now. He is facing a barrage of lawsuits that could cost him tens of millions of dollars in all.

The big one is the whistleblower lawsuit launched by his former teammate Floyd Landis. The suit alleges that Armstrong effectively defrauded the U.S. government, because the U.S. Postal Service was the title sponsor of his cycling team. The contract specified the team's riders could not use performance enhancing drugs. Since Armstrong was part owner of the team, he could be on the hook for a substantial part of the estimated $50 million the U.S. Postal Service paid to be the main sponsor.

The U.S. Justice Department is now considering whether to join the lawsuit, and is expected to announce its decision Thursday. If it does, many believe that will greatly increase the chance of the suit succeeding.

Income sources dried up
If all this wasn’t enough, there is another, possibly even bigger, financial problem. At just 41 years of age, Armstrong is virtually unemployable. Since he was a teenager, all he’s done is be an athlete. Since he recovered from cancer in 1998, all he’s done is be a professional cyclist. Sure, many other pro cyclists face an uncertain future when they retire, but they don’t have lifetime bans restricting them. Most quit the sport with their reputations intact, and go on to be coaches, team managers, or bike manufacturers.

The daunting question facing Armstrong right now is: what’s he going to do for the rest of his life? How is he supposed to work if he is banned from sport? At the moment, he can’t earn prize money or appearance fees at high-level competitions. And if he can’t compete, then he won’t convince any company to sign an endorsement deal. Under the ban, he’s not even allowed to coach.

Aside from writing another book, he appears to have no way to make any money.

Armstrong’s current net worth is substantial, but the lawsuits put some or all of that money at risk of disappearing. At best, his financial future is uncertain. At worst, he’s staring at a potentially catastrophic situation.

The Oprah interview is the start of the campaign to avoid that. If he can get his lifetime ban from sport lifted, everything changes for him.

Make no mistake, Armstrong still has many, many devoted supporters, who would love to see him race again, whether that’s in a triathlon, marathon or something else. Maybe he could even convince a company to endorse him post-redemption. If he is again allowed to compete at a high level, he can restore his ability to earn money.

If he can’t get the ban lifted, then his future looks increasingly bleak.

[RShea]

No mention of the possible Perjury trial and if convicted of that serving a prison sentence in any of these recent discussions about coming clean to get the lifetime band lifted.

[spook]

he should flee the country

[supermodel159]

No mention of the possible Perjury trial and if convicted of that serving a prison sentence in any of these recent discussions about coming clean to get the lifetime band lifted.

God Bless the Statute of limitations!

[cinnepa]

^^^^ha bingo!, he's a special breed - a pathological lie machine who bullied/sued, totally denied to others and tried to bring them all down while proclaiming his innocence. screamed at the top of his lungs to everyone he was clean, did countless interviews of "how many times do i have to go over this.........". well, his $$$$ must be running dry, and he also wants to compete again so he's up against the wall. take the oath and confess the right way...........not with oprah you twat. sure they all did it but for the way he acted like a total asshole all this time it sounds like payback is in order.

[f2f]

HOW DARE HE!?

[cycology1]

Maybe something in that, his mea culpa doesn't make much sense given the number of people lining up outside the door suing him for their money back... plus the USPS whistle-blower suit.

true, he won (likely) against other dopers...but how many times did we have to listen to 'the most tested athlete in the world...' mentally ill or uber narcissist?

[userA]

he could be a P.E. teacher

[concretejungle]

lance doesn't remember what it feels like to lose big.

that said, when he was stomping the shit out of everybody, wasn't he mostly stomping the shit out of other dopers? any different than the nfl? any pro sport?

They did not have the same resources.

[ACH]

HOW DARE HE!?

That rug really tied the room together

[Benny Profane]

true, he won (likely) against other dopers...but how many times did we have to listen to 'the most tested athlete in the world...' mentally ill or uber narcissist?

Well, it was true.

[TomCrac]

I hope he blows up the UCI, now that would be some good fun....For starters.

[concretejungle]

Well, it was true.

No, it fucking wasn't. Jesus H Christ do a fucking google search.

[TBS]

No mention of the possible Perjury trial and if convicted of that serving a prison sentence in any of these recent discussions about coming clean to get the lifetime band lifted.

My guess - he's cutting a deal to avoid prosecution in exchange for testimony that UCI, the major teams and maybe WADA were all conspiring to let the doping go on.

[Bromontana]

They did not have the same resources.

I think Spook makes a very good point. Same can be said for baseball/Bonds, although it's likely baseball had a lower % of abusers than cycling.

While I'm not a big fan of lying through your teeth to the world for a decade and cheating, it's rampant in the sport and the guy has a lot of admirable traits. Truth is he's probably pushed himself harder than anyone in this thread and reached a professional level none of us could ever reach. Some people like to watch more successful people burn.. in fact, it seems like a lot do. I couldn't give a shit. Hopefully he's allowed to do triathlons and continue living life.

He lied and cheated, big whoop. Carry on.

[huckbucket]

I think Spook makes a very good point. Same can be said for baseball/Bonds, although it's likely baseball had a lower % of abusers than cycling.

While I'm not a big fan of lying through your teeth to the world for a decade and cheating, it's rampant in the sport and the guy has a lot of admirable traits. Truth is he's probably pushed himself harder than anyone in this thread and reached a professional level none of us could ever reach. Some people like to watch more successful people burn.. in fact, it seems like a lot do. I couldn't give a shit. Hopefully he's allowed to do triathlons and continue living life.

He lied and cheated, big whoop. Carry on.

Yur dum ...


Honestly, I'm always amazed that people can form some lucid opinions on the back of such little information. If you knew anything about this situation you would realize that yur dum.

Lance was not the most tested athlete in history.
Lance DID test positive.
Lance used his relationship with leaders of the UCI to skirt the rules and hide positives.
Lance had advanced warning of when the testers were about to show up.
Lance had the cash to hire the absolute best docs. And as Hamilton said, it takes big money to coordinate a successful doping campaign.
Lance sued and intimidated anyone who dared to question his accomplishments or the sport's integrity.
Lance gave ultimatums for being on his team. Dope or GTFO.
Lance submarined the careers of at least a dozen people in the cycling industry.
Lance comingled funds from the for-profit and non-profit Livestrong entities to his own financial gain.
Lance pocketed appearance fees that organizers assumed would go to charity.

Notice I didn't mention a darn thing about taking drugs.

[huckbucket]

And if he wasn't fucked enough ... now he's REALLY fucked.

CBS News: Government rejects Armstrong's $5M restitution offer

"Lance Armstrong has offered to pay more than $5 million to the federal government to compensate for the fraud he allegedly committed against the U.S. Postal Service, CBS News has learned. The Postal Service paid Armstrong's team more than $30 million to sponsor it from 1999 to 2004 as part of a contract that banned doping."



And the govt said ...