P18 Wide Brakes Tutorial (with pictures!)

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  • Altaholic
    Upgraded to JH from LCC
    • May 2003
    • 2052

    #76
    Originally posted by El Chupacabra
    Bumping classic thread...

    I tried this on some Look TTC bindings from mntlion, and managed to crack the brake arm right off -- must be more brittle than the P18s.

    Any updates on whether Look/Rossi is producing wide brakes for the race bindings? I'm either gonna need replacement brakes (and try again), or find someone to cut-n-weld the brake arms, or get real creative with some Salomon brakes and try to make them fit.

    -Karl

    I just mailed two pairs of P 18s for me & my brother to slim, he'll do the work for you. I gave him money to cover shipping, plus money for two cases of beer (a case per set of bindings), I did not have the tools to do it myself, and would rather have somebody who know what to do.

    Slim is the fuckin' Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
    Last edited by Altaholic; 10-11-2005, 10:31 PM.
    Always charging it in honor of Flyin' Ryan Hawks.

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    • Professor
      Registered User
      • Sep 2001
      • 2314

      #77
      Bumping a classic, cuz I have to do some brakes for Particle tonight, cuz evidently he got some fat ugly blue skis that need brakes
      "I dont hike.... my legs are too heavy"

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      • Particle
        wordsmith
        • Oct 2003
        • 6255

        #78
        Wow that was fun watching Prof get his knuckles all bloody on my bindings!

        We actually broke one brake arm...anyone got a spare???
        I'm so hardcore, I'm gnarcore.

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        • slim
          What are you looking at?
          • Oct 2003
          • 3460

          #79
          Originally posted by Particle
          Wow that was fun watching Prof get his knuckles all bloody on my bindings!

          We actually broke one brake arm...anyone got a spare???
          Contact Dynastar directly. They'll sell you a pair of heel baseplates at a reasonable price.

          Bend slow.

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          • Professor
            Registered User
            • Sep 2001
            • 2314

            #80
            Originally posted by slim
            Bend slow.
            I think the problem was that we got the straightening of the brake down pretty good and we ended up doing that part too fast, cuz it actually broke in the vise I do want to say for the record that my knuckles are not bloody, but my hands are kind of sore. Also just a note on the whole process, REMEMBER the spring butts up against one of the tabs on the metal plate. If you do not do this the spring will continue to pop out between the brake arms and you have to start ALL PHUCKING OVER
            "I dont hike.... my legs are too heavy"

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            • powder11
              Registered User
              • Feb 2004
              • 7221

              #81
              Originally posted by Professor
              I think the problem was that we got the straightening of the brake down pretty good and we ended up doing that part too fast, cuz it actually broke in the vise I do want to say for the record that my knuckles are not bloody, but my hands are kind of sore. Also just a note on the whole process, REMEMBER the spring butts up against one of the tabs on the metal plate. If you do not do this the spring will continue to pop out between the brake arms and you have to start ALL PHUCKING OVER
              Ive been putting off doing this myself in fear of it turning fubar on me. would light heating with a plumbers torch help any for bending?
              Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -Helen Keller

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              • milkman
                Space Monkey
                • Oct 2003
                • 1126

                #82
                Originally posted by powder11
                Ive been putting off doing this myself in fear of it turning fubar on me. would light heating with a plumbers torch help any for bending?
                I bent and re-bent mine a bunch of times before I got acceptable angles. Just bend slow and they shouldn't break.
                Martha's just polishing the brass on the Titanic....

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                • bossass
                  Calmer than you are.
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4217

                  #83
                  4 pages back, Jeez.

                  BuMp.
                  ROBOTS ARE EATING MY FACE.

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                  • Slaytanic Weirmacht
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 86

                    #84
                    I was able to stretch with a less technical method. I mounted the binders, placed a boot in ski position, locked. then bent straight out, then vise grip or small vise/clamp about an inch out. then bend down. No heat or spring messing. I am sure the lengther method works and if you have patience with the spring. I wont lie either it took me 3 attempts, I busted 2 springs because it wasnt totally in the ski position.
                    Switch powder skiing, while mostly useless, may be the missing link between skiing and snowboarding

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                    • Slaytanic Weirmacht
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 86

                      #85
                      props to whoever took the time to do this.
                      Switch powder skiing, while mostly useless, may be the missing link between skiing and snowboarding

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                      • Slaytanic Weirmacht
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 86

                        #86
                        and I hope you make at least $11 an hour.
                        Switch powder skiing, while mostly useless, may be the missing link between skiing and snowboarding

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                        • SafteySquad
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 721

                          #87
                          Has anybody had a problem with the brakes not matching up when the skis are together? I'm just wondering if bending the brakes is going to make it so the skis won't stay locked together by the brakes. It's not that big of a deal since I have to bend them for the extra room, but any suggestions on how to make them stay locked would be nice. Thanks
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                          • slim
                            What are you looking at?
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3460

                            #88
                            Originally posted by SafteySquad
                            Has anybody had a problem with the brakes not matching up when the skis are together? I'm just wondering if bending the brakes is going to make it so the skis won't stay locked together by the brakes. It's not that big of a deal since I have to bend them for the extra room, but any suggestions on how to make them stay locked would be nice. Thanks
                            Measure twice, bend once. If you bend them to the proper width they will lock up just fine.

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                            • Shepherd Wong
                              Epigone
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1663

                              #89
                              Just did a pair. Thanks! My method for the spring plate procedure. Put the spring in position without the plate on. It'll rest in there nearly in position. Put the plate on, it'll rest slightly off the base because of the spring. Lightly sandwich everything together in a vise. Use two small nails or something to go through the back mounting screw holes and lever the plate back and under the tabs. All of this should be easy, and you don't need to use hardly any force at all. I couldn't get the spring in any other way.

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                              • SafteySquad
                                Registered User
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 721

                                #90
                                I'm having trouble getting the metal plate off the bottom of the bindings. I don't really know how much to bend the front of the plate up so I can clear the tab when sliding the plate off. Also I don't know how much is too much when pushing from the back. I don't want to break the plastic tabs slim was talking about, but I tried sliding the screwdriver under the back of the plate and it didn't do anything except make me nervous. I really don't want to fuck up these bindings since they are so expensive. Any more suggestions would be great.
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