Beer lovers: Never, ever purchase a Diageo product from here on.

**Tippster** · 05-13-2012, 12:57 PM

I always base my Alcohol purchases on whether or not the parent company throws their weight around in their trade associations.

Oh wait - everybody does that.

Hugh Conway · 05-13-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by sneekyjesus

I'm not going to ignore a good product because they were gobbled up by a corporation. A lot of good winemakers, distillers and brewers put their hearts into what they make at those places. Just because Diageo, Constellation, Pernod-Ricard, Jim Beam, etc purchased these places doesn't automatically discredit the hard work that the goes on there. Cross all these off your lists:
http://www.edringtongroup.com/brands/
http://www.brown-forman.com/brands/
http://www.beamglobal.com/brands/view-all-brands
http://www.pernod-ricard-usa.com/brands/index.php?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William...26_Sons#Brands
http://www.bacardilimited.com/Home/OtherBrands
http://www.cbrands.com/our-brands?pa...c&order=value0

Uh oh! No more Irish whiskys for you guys because the last independent distillery in Ireland was bought this year by Jim Beam. Do you enjoy any wines that are made at custom crush facilities, not by the owners of the label? How bought craft beers that are made in another breweries fermenters and tanks because they can't afford a brewery or because it works out for everyone? Lets talk bourbon: A lot of the best bourbons and ryes offered right now don't really tell you who makes them. At the end of the day ownership means shit if you are enjoying what you drink. All I'm saying is you don't always know what you're enjoying. I love craft beers too, but the asshole at Diageo who had a hissy fit doesn't actually create any of their products, so why take it out on them?

is there some point to this rambling? not all conglomerates are equal.

you have to have a parent company for them to swing their weight around almost all of the beers with parents companys suck ass.

**sneekyjesus** · 05-13-2012, 02:19 PM

My point is whats the point of getting so worked up about what some sales rep or regional manager or whoever did at some awards ceremony. All conglomerates, like all businesses, are after the bottom line. I like a lot of those Diageo products, even if you think Dom is the hicks lottery gift. Does Dom or Vueve or Moet or Perrier Joet or any of these other champagnes suck because they aren't family business anymore?

Hugh Conway · 05-13-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by sneekyjesus

My point is whats the point of getting so worked up about what some sales rep or regional manager or whoever did at some awards ceremony.

You don't care... we get that. I like kicking marketing twats in the nuts.

err, yes, the "bottom line" mentality that the current big conglomerates bring is what makes the product suck. My favorite Champagne is still from a small house - Deutz, owned by Roederer family (or last I checked). Unfortunately the conglomerates with both their pricing, distribution and advertising power make it difficult to acquire these days.

**f2f** · 05-13-2012, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hugh Conway

My favorite Champagne is still from a small house - Deutz, owned by Roederer family (or last I checked).

i have never, ever bought cognac from a major manufacturer (but plenty from small VSOP labels who are, in reality, XOs that didn't have enough money to purchase the designation). nor do i buy french wine that's not "mis en bouteille à la propriété". one has to be persistent in their snobbery.