How Psychedelic Drugs can Help Terminal Patients face Death

[iceman]

That's a toughie. It could hurt or help but I have no idea which one. Seems likely to be pretty scary for her.

[bodywhomper]

need an experience "guide" who actually knows what they're doing.

[DasBlunt]

Bump, Featured recently on Netflix in a movie about our grandfathers of mind expansion.....

[4matic]

My mom's mental health is declining due to Alzheimers....is there any reason she shouldn't drink a cup or two of 'Shroom or peyote tea.

Maybe a micro dose. Just enough to giggle.

[skuff]

Just enough to giggle.

^^^ This ^^^

[Dantheman]

It's been out for a year, but nonetheless this thread deserves a bump due to Michael Pollan's latest book, How to Change Your Mind.

Free and abridged version: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-medicine.html

Also, this: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/tripofcompassion
and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_g_WYVKs9I

FDA has granted "Breakthrough Therapy" status to MDMA- and psilocybin-assisted therapy for treatment of severe PTSD and depression. Both could be legal, clinically-accepted treatments by 2021.

[iceman]

Even abridged I don't have time to read that right now but I will later, thanks.

[MakersTeleMark]

I have the book next in my lineup. I'm staring right at it.

When I'm done, I'll send it to you.

[iceman]

If you mean me, thanks just let me know.

[Dantheman]

Even abridged I don't have time to read that right now but I will later, thanks.

He also did the full book tour thing last year and was on a ton of podcasts you can listen to. His Joe Rogan episode is a good one, because drugs and Joe Rogan, but there's quite a few to choose from.

[MakersTeleMark]

If you mean me, thanks just let me know.

Will do.

[Skidog]

It's been out for a year, but nonetheless this thread deserves a bump due to Michael Pollan's latest book, How to Change Your Mind.

Free and abridged version: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-medicine.html

Also, this: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/tripofcompassion
and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_g_WYVKs9I

FDA has granted "Breakthrough Therapy" status to MDMA- and psilocybin-assisted therapy for treatment of severe PTSD and depression. Both could be legal, clinically-accepted treatments by 2021.

#ayahuasca

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[riser4]

It's been out for a year, but nonetheless this thread deserves a bump due to Michael Pollan's latest book, How to Change Your Mind.

Free and abridged version: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-medicine.html

Also, this: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/tripofcompassion
and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_g_WYVKs9I

FDA has granted "Breakthrough Therapy" status to MDMA- and psilocybin-assisted therapy for treatment of severe PTSD and depression. Both could be legal, clinically-accepted treatments by 2021.

They can keep their Molly, but how bout some recreational psilocybin...

[scrambledbacon]

Anybody who thinks a psychedelic experience isn't about death (or more specifically death of the ego) has obviously wasted whatever experiences they've had.

Believe me - I fucking hate hippies (part of the reason for my hippie hatred is that they are the ones who pretty much ruined psychedelic research, at least in this country), but LSD and other psychedelics are valuable tools for understanding life. I'd rather see people undergoing psychedelic therapy than being turned into zombies with anti-depressants and such.

Fucking word...

[scrambledbacon]

To add.
I reserve these compounds for very special occasions. But everytime time I come out of a trip, I'm so at ease and maintain a clear and objective headspace. IME, psychedelics when used correctly are massively therapeutic.

(Future whenever wife has to be open to tripping together, at the very least,boomers&#128523

[iceman]

What I wonder about - and maybe it's addressed in the book - is the value of psychedelic therapies for those who've already done those and been there, a lot. It's pretty unlikely that I will have an experience more intense than I've already had in the past. Granted I haven't taken every substance out there so I dunno.

[MakersTeleMark]

What I wonder about - and maybe it's addressed in the book - is the value of psychedelic therapies for those who've already done those and been there, a lot. It's pretty unlikely that I will have an experience more intense than I've already had in the past. Granted I haven't taken every substance out there so I dunno.

The amount of new compounds out there is "mind blowing".

DOM DOB DOI MMDA DMMDA MDE 2CB 2CE DOET DOPR 2CT2 p-DOT MBDB MMA LE-25 etc.

https://erowid.org/psychoactives/faq...guide.shtml#dd

https://pillreports.net/index.php

[CantDog]

What I wonder about - and maybe it's addressed in the book - is the value of psychedelic therapies for those who've already done those and been there, a lot. It's pretty unlikely that I will have an experience more intense than I've already had in the past. Granted I haven't taken every substance out there so I dunno.

My experience is yes, the idea is not to have a stronger experience, but the set and setting of a trip would be different each time. The journey takes on a different experience because of the therapeutic context, and the integration work that goes on after. I’m in the boat that you don’t necessarily need some psychedelic therapist guiding your experience, but someone skilled at having you feel safe and held. The real work comes during integration.

For folks I’ve seen who have taken substances in the setting of a serious illness the journey can be very different.

[CantDog]

I started that article last night. Near the beginning they talk about a trial at Harvard in 1962 where 10 guys got acid and 10 guys got nicotinic acid and they had to stop the trial because one guy freaked out and had to be given Thorazine to calm him down. Fairly sure that guy was my Dad.

At least I know he was in an LSD trial at Harvard in that time frame and it had to be stopped because of him losing his shit, but he always said that after they stopped the trial they broke the code to see who was on acid and who had the placebo and they discovered that he was on the placebo!

Was your dad a divinity student?!

[iceman]

I'm not sure what he was considered in that time period, he did a lot of coursework in that area, but also history and biology. He was probably the most educated person I've ever met, like to a crazy extent. He had postgraduate degrees in Byzantine History and Neurobiology and worked as a history teacher at Harvard for a while before switching to a job in research biochemistry, then going to medical school, then did a surgical residency but decided he was sick of blood after being in the infantry in Europe in WW2 and so he did a psychiatric residency and he ended up as a psychiatrist. So, maybe.

[MakersTeleMark]

I'm not sure what he was considered in that time period, he did a lot of coursework in that area, but also history and biology. He was probably the most educated person I've ever met, like to a crazy extent. He had postgraduate degrees in Byzantine History and Neurobiology and worked as a history teacher at Harvard for a while before switching to a job in research biochemistry, then going to medical school, then did a surgical residency but decided he was sick of blood after being in the infantry in Europe in WW2 and so he did a psychiatric residency and he ended up as a psychiatrist. So, maybe.

Placebo, the wonder drug. Fascinating.

[old goat]

someone skilled at having you feel safe and held.

That works with or without the acid

[bodywhomper]

Not sure about current academic research, but in the 90’s, lsd was not used in research (mammal, nonhuman), because it had a lot of various and unpredictable behavioral responses. The grad student that I knew that worked in the psychopharmacology lab said that it was considered “dirty.” This was in comparison to DMT, silly-ciben, mescaline, and mdma.