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Thread: Scarpa Maestrale RS
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12-19-2012, 09:59 PM #101
[QUOTE=LeeLau;3849924]I checked in with Scarpa. They said they had 2 incidents this year that they know about and both booths were replaced. Hoping you were one of them. warranty@scarpa.com is who to contact.
Thanks for the info, I'll let both of the guys this happened to know to contact Scarpa directly.
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12-19-2012, 10:42 PM #102
Is the general construction of the RS better than the orange?
I have second generation Maestrale oranges (not the first gen where all the screws fell out).
This week two tongue hinges broke on the same boot - the tongue and buckles aren't even attached to the boot anymore. Then one cuff bolt/cant adjuster fell out on the other boot and the cuff is now only half attached.
And I'm still skiing them somehow.
Boots have seen only 150 days of backcountry use.
Thats a total of FIVE tongue hinges I have broken now.Life is not lift served.
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12-19-2012, 11:05 PM #103
when i asked in the original RS review disappointingly the hinges are still the same thin metal. I broke four hinges of the original (2 on mine; 2 on Sharon's). The replacement hinges haven't broken but I've been super careful with them. Scarpa NA gave me a replacement parts kit - are you still around? I can give it to you and i can get a new kit.
Because the metal looks so thin I wouldn't be surprised to break another hinge but so far so good
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12-19-2012, 11:39 PM #104
Yep, around until Saturday. Happy to take you parts package - thank you. Can't get any part locally without a 'few weeks wait'.
I was tempted to buy new boots but will hold off until perhaps Gen 2-3 of the RS
I think those hinges break from over tightening the buckles and pulling the tongue across the boot. A very weak correlation, but it seems my breakage rate increased as my liners packed out.Life is not lift served.
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12-20-2012, 12:13 AM #105
ok- my parts are in Van and i;ll be back in the city on Friday so make sure to come and get them
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12-22-2012, 10:37 AM #106
My one buddy returned his Meastrale RS s to MEC yesterday. He's going to try the Mercury instead.
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12-22-2012, 10:37 AM #107mental projection
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Kind of a JONG question here, but are the shell sizes on the Maestrale half sizes or full sizes? (i.e. can I put a 26.0 liner into a 26.5 shell?)
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12-22-2012, 11:11 AM #108Registered User
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Everyone uses one shell for 2 sizes being the full & half size up plastic ski boot but Scarpa break on the half while everyone else breaks on the full size so a 26 and a 26.5 scarpa are different shells
Gea & celeste (womens models) were the other boots I was looking at but I am very happy I went mercury and they are unisex so no more chick boots
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12-22-2012, 02:18 PM #109
Lee - sent you a separate message.
Just for the record, skiing AT boots in steepish chop and chunder with one cuff half unbolted and the other tongue totally separated from the boot and floating free, where the tongue is an integral part of the boot closure system, it.... sucks.Life is not lift served.
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12-22-2012, 06:51 PM #110
^^^ yes, that sounds unpleasant.
(ahhh! i don't want to know what the tips of my ski tastes like!).In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...
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01-22-2013, 09:49 PM #111Registered User
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Just got mine, and trying to sort a few minor issues.
1- Adjustable rear spoiler. Never had one. Why might I adjust it?
2- The black fabric gasket on the lower shell. Looks like a matter of time before I rip it with the tongue.
3- For some reson, on one boot, the tounge slips down when skinning. I loosen my cuffs a bit, but not completely. And the toungue slips down putting a weird pressure on my forefoot.
Any thoughts?
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01-27-2013, 09:05 PM #112
I picked up a pair of these and decided to put them to the test in the resort this weekend. My previous boots were Dynafit Titans and my alpine boots are Rossi/Lange RL11 plug boots in ZB/ZB flex.
In comparison to the Titan:
- There is no play in the walk mode mechanism when locked in ski mode
- The forward flex is more progressive. On the Titans, I felt I couldn't really get into the flex in the upright lean setting, or I'd flop forward when in the more angled lean. On the RS, the initial flex is supple but they ramp up nicely.
- Lateral and aft support is stiffer - I did find myself wishing for more aft support at times in situations where tails need pressure to make snappy turns and may try sticking some spoilers to the back of my liners
- Fit is more anatomical out of the box
In comparison to my plug boots:
- The power transmission isn't quite the same due to a less firm fit - I feel this most when trying to make energetic turns in tight spots and trees
- Forward flex is definitely softer
- The lateral and aft support isn't quite as stiff
- The more upright lean setting on the RS is about 1 degree more upright than my plug boots and the more forward setting is about 5 degrees more forward than my plugs. This was measured very imprecisely by using an iPhone level app against the inside of the cuff of the boots with the liners in. I found the more upright setting felt better and the forward setting was way too forward, especially considering the softer flex. As mentioned above, I think additional spoilers would be beneficial.
I thought they did really well in the resort, definitely more powerful and precise than the Titan. That said, they're no replacement for stiff overlap boots, especially on harder/crappier snow. I definitely had to ski more relaxed and cruisy, or put in serious amounts of energy to get the responsiveness I'm used to.
My sizing:
- Scarpa Maestrale RS - mondo 26/298 mm bsl
- Dynafit Titan - mondo 25 - 292 mm bsl - killed my toes in walk mode
- Rossignol RL11 - size 7 - 292 mm bsl
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02-14-2013, 07:54 PM #113Registered User
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Why can't they make a stiff and progressive boot? RS is just a bit too soft for me, even w/ booster strap and powerwrap. Sure, I can adapt my style, but dammit that's not the point. It would be awesome if they'd just sell tongues of different stiffness so those of us who want a stiff-ass boot could be happy. Cochise 120 was too stiff for me (literally could not flex that boot at all -- but it was a size too big), and now the RS is too soft. Goldilocks has nothing on me. Fuck.
Maybe I'll do that carbon stringer mod I read about somewhere. Seems overkill, but might be worth it?
/rant"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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02-15-2013, 09:03 AM #114
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02-15-2013, 09:54 AM #115Registered User
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"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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02-15-2013, 10:32 AM #116
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02-25-2013, 10:49 AM #117I love my family. Kids are the best.
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02-25-2013, 10:53 AM #118Registered User
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02-25-2013, 11:05 AM #119
^^ Personally I like the one closest to the toes. I could see how folks would like to ditch the "over arch" buckle.
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02-25-2013, 11:28 AM #120
Anyone has issues getting their RS's punched out? Should I go to a bootfitter with experience working on nylon boots? Or will the guy who mostly works on race boots be ok?
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02-25-2013, 12:24 PM #121Registered User
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02-25-2013, 03:01 PM #122
I have really wide feet and had mine punched several times to finally get the width I need in the sixth toe area. They do punch well but the person doing it should have some experience with non-PU boots. I heard the grilamid goes soft fairly suddenly so lower heat and longer with the heat gun.
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02-25-2013, 03:05 PM #123Registered User
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the g/f's Gea RS were punched without problems. mtnlion did the fitting, he used a water bath to heat the shells.
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02-25-2013, 03:26 PM #124
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