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  1. #2576
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    So what absolves YOU of "racism"..? #virtuesignaling

    I never tried to absolve my self from it... but that said, I am not the guy hating on the young black man who "inst using his sponsored gear correctly".

    But again, Still waiting for the Dry tooling education NorCalNomad is about to lay down me Re: Ice axe vs Ice tool.
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    Nice try... And from what I see no one is "hating on the young black man", but poking fun at a "person". Injecting race into a discussion where it is not relevant Get real already, huh?







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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    Nice try... And from what I see no one is "hating on the young black man", but poking fun at a "person". Injecting race into a discussion where it is not relevant Get real already, huh?
    sure, Its easy to say its not relevant. but there are undeniable truths in it....on face value, its hard to diminish the concern (in that there are quite literally thousands of Instagram posers to pick for the GSA flame fest, but only a small percentage are of colour) ....but I digress... because quite honestly, its not for a group a white guys to rule on either way....

    Still waiting to hear how an Ice axe differs from an Ice tool, an why one cant be used for dry tooling......
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcrawfo View Post
    Still waiting to hear how an Ice axe differs from an Ice tool, an why one cant be used for dry tooling......
    Don't really care for the race non-sense, but here is the difference:

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    This is an ice tool, which is primarily used to climb ice and dry tool.

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    This is an ice axe, which is primarily used for self arrest.

    Other than being completely different in terms of shape, there are differences in how the pick is configured. Ice tool pick is typically a bit narrower and much sharper to chisel ice. The ice axe has a broader pick to provide more resistance when you start sliding down a slope. So in conclusion, the instagram profile is most certainly a gumby who likes to carry pointless and heavy stuff up his 5.5 climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    Don't really care for the race non-sense, but here is the difference:


    This is an ice tool, which is primarily used to climb ice and dry tool.

    This is an ice axe, which is primarily used for self arrest.

    Other than being completely different in terms of shape, there are differences in how the pick is configured. Ice tool pick is typically a bit narrower and much sharper to chisel ice. The ice axe has a broader pick to provide more resistance when you start sliding down a slope. So in conclusion, the instagram profile is most certainly a gumby who likes to carry pointless and heavy stuff up his 5.5 climbs.
    Thanks, but the tool he is carrying appears to be a technical alpine tool .... it actually looks like a Petzl Sum'tec, so not unreasonable to suggest it can be used for dry tooling.... thats actually how they market it.

    keep hating on him. He is getting out, and getting hooked up.
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    I didn't look at the picture too closely because I don't really care. A Sum'tec is sort of a hybrid where you could dry tool in pinch but it would be pretty hard, it's better use would be mellow ice gulleys or steep snow climbs with maybe a little ice on it. Also, I think there was only one tool on his harness so it still doesn't make sense. Either way, he's more of a gumby than a gaper, not enough gopros strapped to him to qualify as gaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    I didn't look at the picture too closely because I don't really care. A Sum'tec is sort of a hybrid where you could dry tool in pinch but it would be pretty hard, it's better use would be mellow ice gulleys or steep snow climbs with maybe a little ice on it. Also, I think there was only one tool on his harness so it still doesn't make sense. Either way, he's more of a gumby than a gaper, not enough gopros strapped to him to qualify as gaper.
    I dont deny that at heart, this guy qualifies as one of the thousands of insta posers out there who are trying to translate likes into spancership .... but I dont think its fair to single out his gaper style... as he may even have the rock pick bolted up to that sum'tec... and in other related insta posts, there is even a bigger looking gumby following him clipping into the lead gear he is placing without a rope... yes, I want to barf in my mouth every time I read his quotes about death in the mountains and his life wish ... the guy doesn't have a fucking clue what it means to die or be near death in the alpine... but honestly, people are flaming him for things that dont actually seem flame worthy... they are picking out minor technical things, that in the context of some one else wouldn't even register.... hence my foray into racialization.

    I guess I am just disappointed in some of you crusty old fucks. You all used be sharper on detecting the troll and a bunch of couch dandys shouldn't be looking to single out technical flaws in something they likely dont participate in or fully understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcrawfo View Post
    I dont deny that at heart, this guy qualifies as one of the thousands of insta posers out there who are trying to translate likes into spancership .... but I dont think its fair to single out his gaper style... as he may even have the rock pick bolted up to that sum'tec... and in other related insta posts, there is even a bigger looking gumby following him clipping into the lead gear he is placing without a rope... yes, I want to barf in my mouth every time I read his quotes about death in the mountains and his life wish ... the guy doesn't have a fucking clue what it means to die or be near death in the alpine... but honestly, people are flaming him for things that dont actually seem flame worthy... they are picking out minor technical things, that in the context of some one else wouldn't even register.... hence my foray into racialization.

    I guess I am just disappointed in some of you crusty old fucks. You all used be sharper on detecting the troll and a bunch of couch dandys shouldn't be looking to single out technical flaws in something they likely dont participate in or fully understand.
    I bet if you message him he might let you suck his dick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcrawfo View Post
    at heart


    Dude.
    The guy posts it on instagram
    Now its ours to use for laffs
    The end
    Get a life

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    Nice try... And from what I see no one is "hating on the young black man", but poking fun at a "person". Injecting race into a discussion where it is not relevant
    X2, race should not be a shield prohibiting objective criticism that has absolutely nothing to do with race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcrawfo View Post
    Thanks, but the tool he is carrying appears to be a technical alpine tool .... it actually looks like a Petzl Sum'tec, so not unreasonable to suggest it can be used for dry tooling.... thats actually how they market it.

    keep hating on him. He is getting out, and getting hooked up.
    ill buy you "one" of those and you can show me some dry tooling with it(do you even know what dry tooling is)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    X2, race should not be a shield prohibiting objective criticism that has absolutely nothing to do with race.
    This right here. This dude could be as pale as the driven snow and the past couple pages of this thread would be the same.

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    Yeah, totally racist to share this latest pro technique, after all - what could go wrong.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B3VCx45BfHc/

    Must-have equipment for 95F hikes in the arid mountains of SoCal... but seriously, it's sad that SAR would have to deal with this if he stumbles. Hopefully he just turned around the pack for the photo, but doubt it.

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    Can we get this fucking choad outta the GSA thread please?

    Hes not worthy.

    Linking his garbage just gives him clicks and encourages him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    Yeah, totally racist to share this latest pro technique, after all - what could go wrong.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B3VCx45BfHc/

    Must-have equipment for 95F hikes in the arid mountains of SoCal... but seriously, it's sad that SAR would have to deal with this if he stumbles. Hopefully he just turned around the pack for the photo, but doubt it.
    Nope 2 packs. Goof

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    My kid sometimes wears 2 packs, in the airport.

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    LOL at all the gaper triggered jongs here. Gaper 1, jongs 0..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    One toe to point the way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by singlecross View Post
    One toe to point the way...
    Ya know, they say if you draw a straight line from the tip of his boot point from anywhere in the world it points directly to Haines AK.


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