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    Dean Cummings is such an animal!
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    T-Hall reliving the glory days:
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    There was this dude in the Ď80s at Mt Spokane who was always raging the bumps on 2 face at night. Throwing huge floater 360ís, daffyís, spreads while absolutely flying down the bumps. My very impressionable high school self wanted to ski like that.
    Never saw him during the day.

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    I rip the groomed on tele gear

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    With fat and shaped skis anybody can ski powder and rip groomers. Skiing bumps will show your skill level. Or lack there of.

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    My knee doctor told me to start thinking of skiing moguls as very lame a few years ago. As my instructor at Taos said, you don't see 40 year olds zipping bumps. Except Plake. How old is that guy, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    My knee doctor told me to start thinking of skiing moguls as very lame a few years ago. As my instructor at Taos said, you don't see 40 year olds zipping bumps. Except Plake. How old is that guy, anyway?
    I've seen way more world cup racers, particularly GS racers with blown knee problems than competitive bumpers. Done right, shredding bumps can be low impact. Problem is there are high consequences for not done right. Also. I'd argue that odds are good that anyone you see ripping through the bumps on any given day is more likely to be over 30 than under 30... simply because 70s-90s is when bump skiing was at the peak of popularity. Fewer kids these days and post Y2K had/have the motivation to learn to ski bumps.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    There was this dude in the ‘80s at Mt Spokane who was always raging the bumps on 2 face at night. Throwing huge floater 360’s, daffy’s, spreads while absolutely flying down the bumps. My very impressionable high school self wanted to ski like that.
    Never saw him during the day.

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    Guy Jones. I don't know what's ever become of him but he was a ripper. I think he just aged out and had some knee problems. I haven't seen him anywhere in probably 10 years. I used to ski with him a little bit before I moved my pass to Schweitzer.

    ETA: He always lived at the base of Mt. Spokane and I just checked and he still does. He skied at night mostly because he worked days. Run up the hill, ski, be home in 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    My knee doctor told me to start thinking of skiing moguls as very lame a few years ago. As my instructor at Taos said, you don't see 40 year olds zipping bumps. Except Plake. How old is that guy, anyway?
    54, still a kid.

    If you're skiing moguls right, they don't hurt your knees. Where they get you is if you're late in your turns and start smacking the uphill side and smashing into them. If your turns are timed right, no issues.
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    It is lame to ski moguls?

    Iím 40 and still zip em too
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    My worldwide web quest suggests that mogul skiing correctly (absorption + extension) in control isn't any worse for knee health than running. And that includes robo-zipperlining, but not 70's hot-dogging.

    Also, based on injury etiology, bump skiing is more likely to cause a blown meniscus, while carving is more likely to blow an ACL.

    That's how it seems through the lens of my confirmation bias anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
    54, still a kid.

    If you're skiing moguls right, they don't hurt your knees. Where they get you is if you're late in your turns and start smacking the uphill side and smashing into them. If your turns are timed right, no issues.
    I don't know. Donna Weinbrecht was/probably still is one of the best, but popped the knee just, you know, doing what she did like a hundred thousand times. A lot of other stories like that. Let's face it, it's not a healthy thing to do. But, I suck anyway, when it comes to that skiing moguls right shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I don't know. Donna Weinbrecht was/probably still is one of the best, but popped the knee just, you know, doing what she did like a hundred thousand times.
    When you do something this much... eventually you're going to blow it. But the point still stands that skiing bumps *correctly* aren't rough on your knees. Just don't ever blow it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    Well it would only be fair to have it there at YOUR home mountain..
    Oh Darling, my home mountain is wherever you are... or wherever your sweet cheeks bounce on bumps. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    When you do something this much... eventually you're going to blow it. But the point still stands that skiing bumps *correctly* aren't rough on your knees. Just don't ever blow it.

    I don't know. God knows how many miles I've driven in my life, and no major accident, and they say that's a dangerous thing to do. Maybe 30,000 miles on bicycles, and still rolling, and that one isn't very safe, either.

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    Itís harder on your back than knees. Zipperlining with tele turns is easier on the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I don't know. God knows how many miles I've driven in my life, and no major accident, and they say that's a dangerous thing to do. Maybe 30,000 miles on bicycles, and still rolling, and that one isn't very safe, either.
    If you look at driving from a risk/mile standpoint, it is *incredibly* safe. I saw an article regarding transportation risk, and I believe driving was one of the safest (behind trains, air, IIRC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I don't know. Donna Weinbrecht was/probably still is one of the best, but popped the knee just, you know, doing what she did like a hundred thousand times. A lot of other stories like that. Let's face it, it's not a healthy thing to do. But, I suck anyway, when it comes to that skiing moguls right shit.
    I would say, though, that skiing them right is part of it. Skiing the right moguls is a huge contributor. I don't like a lot of the bumps around now when compared to the 'old days' of the 70's. They're too tightly spaced and more horizontal than vertical in many cases. It's like skiing down a staircase whereas, if you find the right mogul field, the turns are much more obvious and vertical. Also, I won't ski icy moguls, that's just brutal. Soft bumps (fresh snow or corned-up) is much more fun. One last thing, if you're doing it right and not getting late in your turns or blowing out of your line, the impacts are minimal but, that's not always possible. I blew out of my line last weekend and it was a rough ride before I got my speed down. That's a way to get hurt.

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    ^^^ snowboards.

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    ^^ I know but didn't want to say it. We used to have a run that was marked "200 CM Skis Minimum, No Snowboards". That lasted one season until the wailing masses (cry babies) got it changed.

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    ^^^ Love it. Am I remembering correctly that Drunken Frenchman and/or Outhouse had some sort of minimum ski length requirement posted in the 80s?

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    I saw a mogul field below... on one my bigger Airs / smack in my landing zone

    woops, i thought for second , having not scouted the Landing 1st!.....(though I did have spotters )

    …..then I realized /No Problem/ I ski those things ...landed a decent 20 footer with a lot distance , about 30 foot(gotta clear those rocks)


    it was a good lesson on how easy Moguls can be , when you just relax and Ski em out at a comfortable speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by baron View Post
    at a comfortable speed
    Tangentially... there's a lot of hate for manufactured, seeded bump courses. But my understanding is that just allows competitors to ski faster than would be possible on natural bumps; like a mountain road vs. a permanent Trans-Am road course. The same skills are involved in both cases, but the seeded course permits faster speed and demands more technical prowess.

    Both are impressive; but I'll sure as hell never try to ski natural bumps fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    you don't see 40 year olds zipping bumps.
    True story. None of my mogul skier friends are that young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    I don't know. Donna Weinbrecht was/probably still is one of the best, but popped the knee just, you know, doing what she did like a hundred thousand times. A lot of other stories like that. Let's face it, it's not a healthy thing to do. But, I suck anyway, when it comes to that skiing moguls right shit.
    I'll see your one injury DW and raise you LV,...
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    When you do something this much... eventually you're going to blow it. But the point still stands that skiing bumps *correctly* aren't rough on your knees. Just don't ever blow it.

    Crashes in the bumps are dangerous. Airs into bumps are sketchy.

    Just skiing bumps though....not necessarily so bad.

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