REVIEW: 2012-2013 Rossignol Squad 7, 190cm

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 12:44 AM

Four days into our 17 day review trip to Niseko.

The new Squad 7 has been killing it.

It's sort of like the Super 7...except better in every conceivable way.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...signol-squad-7

**SeatownSlackey** · 02-07-2012, 01:19 AM

nice review. looks like i'll be trading in my supers this fall

**verbier61** · 02-07-2012, 02:53 AM

the squad 7 on display at ISPO had an insane amount of positive camber, WAY more than S7 and super7 that were near by. May be those were failed proto or whatever, but they were very ugly to see

**DeepHelmet** · 02-07-2012, 03:32 AM

Saw a pair on the tram today. Didn't seem to have a ton of excessive camber. They were the white with green version.

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by verbier61

the squad 7 on display at ISPO had an insane amount of positive camber, WAY more than S7 and super7 that were near by. May be those were failed proto or whatever, but they were very ugly to see

Yeah, the amount of camber underfoot for a 120mm waisted ski is pretty eye popping. I questioned Rossi's engineer of the Squad 7 (and S7 / Super 7), Thor Verdonk, at SIA about the significant camber underfoot. He said that they had tested multiple camber profiles of the Squad 7, and this is the version that performed best.

As a point of comparison, a pair of 190cm Bibby Pros have less camber, but not a lot less.

Anyway, neither Jason nor I have found the camber to cause erratic behavior with the ski.

Also, the Dynastar Cham 107...another ski with some serious camber.

**whyturn** · 02-07-2012, 08:00 AM

Nice review
Was curious since I saw a pair in canada on a snowmobile
Why can't Rossi measure properly?
Is it available in real 192 ish?

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by whyturn

Nice review
Was curious since I saw a pair in canada on a snowmobile
Why can't Rossi measure properly?
Is it available in real 192 ish?

The "190" cm length is the longest Rossi is making, at least for now.

**whyturn** · 02-07-2012, 08:26 AM

One other question. How do I join you in these "review" trips to sick destinations?

**CentoUno** · 02-07-2012, 01:31 PM

In your review you mention the shovel being less than ideal for crud. After skiing different shovel widths etc... from varying manufacturers, I believe Volkl has the smartest shovel to retain it ability to pivot and smear while not deflecting in crud.

The Kuro and now Shiro are in my humble opinion, the gold standard for shovel design. Demo a pair, I'd be interested in a comparison.

Originally Posted by JFE24

Four days into our 17 day review trip to Niseko.

The new Squad 7 has been killing it.

It's sort of like the Super 7...except better in every conceivable way.

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-re...signol-squad-7

**pappag** · 02-07-2012, 01:43 PM

Is it really that hard to copy and paste instead of self-promotion of one's own website/business? Guess not.

**PowTron** · 02-07-2012, 03:55 PM

I love how the ski is a 190cm length, but is really a 186.

Looks like some damn nice snow to test in, though!

**Sessiøn** · 02-07-2012, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by PappaG

Is it really that hard to copy and paste instead of self-promotion of one's own website/business? Guess not.

Pretty sure they review ski's from Moment too. Don't get butthurt.

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by CentoUno

In your review you mention the shovel being less than ideal for crud. After skiing different shovel widths etc... from varying manufacturers, I believe Volkl has the smartest shovel to retain it ability to pivot and smear while not deflecting in crud.

The Kuro and now Shiro are in my humble opinion, the gold standard for shovel design. Demo a pair, I'd be interested in a comparison.

We actually have a pair of 12/13 Shiros with us, and we'll be getting on them later in the trip.

**SeatownSlackey** · 02-07-2012, 05:23 PM

JFE24,

Since everyone is talking about it, how about adding a camber/rocker shot of new rossis?

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by PowTron

I love how the ski is a 190cm length, but is really a 186.

Looks like some damn nice snow to test in, though!

Yeah, Rossi always rolls shorter than advertised, though the length hasn't been an issue for Jason or me, at least. And yeah, the conditions are sick. We're about to head out, and it's probably snowing harder right now than it has since we've been here. So far, it's definitely been the land of free refrills.

Oh, and our reviewer Andrew is breaking out the 12/13 Cease & Desists today....

**PowTron** · 02-07-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by JFE24

Y

Oh, and our reviewer Andrew is breaking out the 12/13 Cease & Desists today....

Prepare to get him some towels...seriously going to blow his mind, and probably something else.

**JFE24** · 02-07-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey

JFE24,

Since everyone is talking about it, how about adding a camber/rocker shot of new rossis?

Here's a quick shot. I'll get better ones up when I get back to the states. Ok, out the door....

**verbier61** · 02-08-2012, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by JFE24

Here's a quick shot. I'll get better ones up when I get back to the states. Ok, out the door....

definitely much less positive camber than the skis on display at ISPO.
Again, it can happen. At this ISPO there were a lot of skis on display that were grossly different from the ordinary in terms of camber, weight, flex

**buenonda** · 02-08-2012, 03:40 AM

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...2&d=1328658803

it's just like the coreupt born to drop or permin, world freeride champion 2 years ago with C.thovex

the camber is hudge, something like 12mm

**hoarhey** · 02-08-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by JFE24

Here's a quick shot. I'll get better ones up when I get back to the states. Ok, out the door....

jfe24's photo of the squad 7 shows the same amount of camber I saw on a pair of squad 7's I fondled outside of the vc at jackson 2 weeks ago

**axebiker** · 02-09-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by PhiberAwptik

Pretty sure they review ski's from Moment too. Don't get butthurt.

Agreed... Thin skin sure can be hard to live in, can't it?

Back on topic - WOW...that profile shot, while a little deceiving due to the tip rocker, sure makes it look like the mount point is way back seat.

**Mudfoot** · 02-09-2012, 09:50 AM

It sounds like they are making the Squads more like the 119 mm waisited Icelantic Keepers, which are stiffer and have more camber and lower rise rocker than the S7s.

**JFE24** · 02-09-2012, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by axebiker

WOW...that profile shot, while a little deceiving due to the tip rocker, sure makes it look like the mount point is way back seat.

You're right - the picture is definitely deceiving. The Squad 7s actually do have a good amount of tail, roughly the same amount of tail as a 190 Bibby Pro.