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Thread: Crows v. Gulls
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01-26-2012, 05:53 PM #76
Crows are smart, but not THAT smart.
When I was a punk kid I used to shoot them with a pellet gun when they'd land in the vacant tree-filled lot behind my house. If they could see me, they'd fly away as soon as I appeared but if I could remain hidden they wouldn't fly away even after several of their number had been dropped. One would fall and the rest would go crazy, flying around in circles and cawing like mad but eventually they'd start landing in the trees again and then another would fall and they'd repeat the behavior. You'd think they'd realize that staying in that area was a bad idea as their buddies were dropping dead, but they'd stay as long as they couldn't see what was causing the problem. Furthermore, they'd return to that group of trees regularly rather than avoid it.
Yes, I feel bad about that now. Just bringing it up as an example of strange behavior that seems to run counter to other observed behavior and their learning abilities....Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain...
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08-12-2018, 08:54 PM #77Funky But Chic
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I just found this thread by accident, but i still think about Crows v. Gulls. I see it often. Halfway down our yard is the boundary. They both want it.
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08-12-2018, 09:04 PM #78
I read this recently:
https://www.amazon.com/Bird-Brains-I.../dp/0871569566 .
Basically, this corvidophile gives the schmarts award to the crows, particularly those on some island in the pacific who not only use tools, but the tool technique differs from valley to valley, indicating that it's a cultural thing.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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08-12-2018, 09:05 PM #79Funky But Chic
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08-12-2018, 09:41 PM #80
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08-13-2018, 06:10 AM #81
yeah I saw that thing 60 minutes a while back i beleive, with the crows problem-solving. smart fuckers.
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08-13-2018, 06:53 AM #82"I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I think there's something to be said for that" -One For The Road
Brain dead and made of money.
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08-13-2018, 07:20 AM #83
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08-13-2018, 08:25 AM #84
flying dinosaurs
i like crows and unfortunately have seen ravens very few times
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08-13-2018, 10:32 AM #85
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08-13-2018, 10:51 AM #86
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08-13-2018, 10:58 AM #87
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08-13-2018, 11:08 AM #88
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08-13-2018, 11:19 AM #89
sure
and there is some discussion of semi warm blooded dinos
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08-13-2018, 11:22 AM #90
dinosaurs did not have feathers
nor hollow thin-wall lightweight bones
nor the brainpower of many modern bird species, especially corvids
etc., etc., etc.
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08-13-2018, 12:10 PM #91
some dinos are thought to have had feathers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaur
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08-13-2018, 12:15 PM #92
Cormorants or Ravens?
I've seen loads of both in VT.
The cormorants are concentrated to Lake Champlain where they have been a bit of an environmental nuisance.
https://www.mynbc5.com/article/biolo...-birds/3327314
That said, Ravens are cool but crows are assholes when they get together in a group.
Sea Gulls are indeed flying rats IMHO. Although they do a great job cleaning up trash from the beaches.Aim for the chopping block. If you aim for the wood, you will have nothing. Aim past the wood, aim through the wood.
http://tim-kirchoff.pixels.com/
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08-13-2018, 12:18 PM #93
i didn't mean cormorants - shoot those fuckers
there aren't many ravens around in vt - not in my part. there are some in the NE Kingdom and the the high peaks in NY
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08-13-2018, 12:47 PM #94"...no hobby should either seek or need rational justification. To find reasons why it is useful or beneficial converts it at once from an avocation into an industry, lowers it at once to the ignominious category of an exercise undertaken for health, power or profit."
-Aldo Leopold
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08-13-2018, 12:55 PM #95
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08-14-2018, 06:21 AM #96
The French are putting them to work.
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/13/63820...h-why-cant-you"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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08-14-2018, 06:41 AM #97
I hate magpies. When they ate all my cherries one year, that alone pissed me off, but then they shit cherry pits all over the fucking house, cars, decks, everything. Never again. I decided to shoot them all the following year with my pellet gun. It worked. Only a couple came the following year, and this year none came. Fuck those guys.
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08-14-2018, 08:07 AM #98Aim for the chopping block. If you aim for the wood, you will have nothing. Aim past the wood, aim through the wood.
http://tim-kirchoff.pixels.com/
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08-14-2018, 08:18 AM #99
put me in the raven camp
3-4 years ago caught a mid week up slope at the local hill, great powder morning and then the sun came out, my cue to leave. drove the road down the hill and a raven was catching the wind buff off the car or something but did about 5-7 barrel rolls right next to my window. very cool.
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08-14-2018, 09:08 AM #100
But they're not direct descendents of lizards, so what are they? Bird hipped vs. lizard hipped, I say Mothra crushes Godzilla.
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