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    What's Causing One Of The Warmest, Driest Winters In History

    for a reasoned article read here: http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ing-dry-winter
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    GLOBAL WARMINGEST, BITCHEZ!

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    Another article I read talked about the 11 year sun cycles, and this year is the peak.


    The sun's waves of radiation FOR SURE, alter the jet streams and the even more important, the pressure oscillations and patterns.
    Terje was right.

    "We're all kooks to somebody else." -Shelby Menzel

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    Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

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    I will defer to Al Gore on this one.

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    MAN.........

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    The weather. Duh.

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    You are over thinking it.

    It's the Packers.

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    Some quality comments...

    "Garbage. The lowest ice extent in modern history was the 2006/2007 season. Ice extent is considerably ahead this season. If your theory was correct, why did these conditions not occur back then. Ice cover at present is rapidly increasing while at the same point in the year of the smallest extent, it was declining. At the present rate this seasons ice extent will surpass the earlier maximum at least three weeks earlier. More inconvenient truths. http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png"

    2006/2007 was the last shitty ski season, so I fully concur.

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    FULL BLOWN AIDS?
    There's nothing better than sliding down snow, and flying through the air

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    f2f, are you not in Calgary? -20 is as warm as it's getting this week. Where do I make my contribution to teh GLOBAL WARMINGS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singel View Post
    f2f, are you not in Calgary? -20 is as warm as it's getting this week. Where do I make my contribution to teh GLOBAL WARMINGS?
    i've not been eating beans for the past month in hopes i can get the methane up here lower. i think i may have overdone it...

    how many temperature records did we break this winter so far? the stupid jet stream has been this far north for so long, we have registered 50+ wind warnings so far for AB and NWT vs 7 in a normal year.

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    Its the fact that I bought powder skis and snow tires in August.

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    Too late. Looks like it's over. Cold as shit in the East and the west is getting some this week. Except Tahoe. Poor Tahoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    You are over thinking it.

    It's the Packers.
    Your "fuzzy logic" isn't working... Packers won SB last year and we had an "all-time" season. Therefore making it to the divisional playoff round would cause a better than average snow year. You got to think man!

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    the end is nigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2f View Post
    the stupid jet stream has been this far north for so long, we have registered 50+ wind warnings so far for AB and NWT vs 7 in a normal year.
    Mind you last month at least 2 and I think 3 of those wind warnings brought no real wind. A bit of reaction to missing the warning on that wind storm in November. Mark my words I think that this winter that wouldn't begin is going to turn into the winter that won't end.
    Last edited by L7; 01-16-2012 at 07:40 AM.
    It's not so much the model year, it's the high mileage or meterage to keep the youth of Canada happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Too late. Looks like it's over. Cold as shit in the East and the west is getting some this week. Except Tahoe. Poor Tahoe.

    http://tahoeweatherdiscussion.com/

    the pity party will be over soon....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DasBlunt View Post
    Another article I read talked about the 11 year sun cycles, and this year is the peak.


    The sun's waves of radiation FOR SURE, alter the jet streams and the even more important, the pressure oscillations and patterns.
    The 11-year solar irradiance cycle probably affects climate, but not much.

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/SORCE/

    ~0.06% amplitude on an 11-year cycle. I think you'd be hard pressed to link that with anything observable.
    Last edited by theshredder; 01-16-2012 at 02:31 AM. Reason: its ~0.06 not 0.03...

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    I dunno. it's been pretty legit in the B.C Interior. Plus it's cold as hell tonight!

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    I've been riding powder for a month now, the trees are full of fluffy goodness up here. It's been cold and windy with powder blowing off the top of the mtn and settling in the trees. 3" up top has been more like 11" in the trees. We have no snow down low, and I've definitley hit some rocks, but I'm not complaining.

    Bring on the next storm baby.

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    This is totally caused by my wife and I.

    Having worked through the last two unbelievable winters, we re-arranged our lives to be able to take most of this winter off to ski. bada bing , no snow anywhere.

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    Don't we all know?

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    Sometimes fear just means that you need to push your shins into the front of your ski boots and fuckin send it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2f View Post
    What's causing one of the warmest, driest winters in history?
    Same thing that's causing one of the snowiest Ak winters in many decades!

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    Looking good Mang, a bit late though

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    its been cold as shit this winter... I think it has something to do with the PDO and lack of kings
    Its not that I suck at spelling, its that I just don't care

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