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    This doesn't exactly encompass projected or already authorized but not yet incurred bills, but still:

    70-23-606. Records of receipts and expenditures affecting common elements -- inspection.

    (1) The manager shall keep detailed accurate records in chronological order of the receipts and expenditures affecting the common elements, itemizing the maintenance and repair expenses of the common elements and any other expenses incurred.

    (2) Such records and the vouchers authorizing the payments and receipts for payments shall be available for examination at the manager's place of business by the unit owners at convenient hours of weekdays.

    https://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/title_0...0060-0060.html

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    2012 SW Montana Conditions, Stoke and Whatev Thread

    Condo’s are usually “highest and Best use” of land, ie. most $/sq. ft.
    Current code usually will never let you build, what’s already there.

    We are currently planning a complete exterior remodel on a 21 unit Complex, that’s going to run at least $150K per unit. We could easily spend twice that, but we’re getting pushback from a couple of owners.

    Anyone looking to buy a condo, should always look at the minutes from the last few years of HOA meetings and the balance sheet for the operating and capital reserve accounts.
    Most capital reserve accounts are vastly under funded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    Current code usually will never let you .....
    Code ? WTF ? This is Montana. You can do anything you want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Code ? WTF ? This is Montana. You used to be able to do anything you wanted.


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    Everybody knows why we have a speed limit right? Because the world's ultimate fuckknob refused to pay his $5 ticket, claiming that "reasonable and prudent" was facially vague and therefore unconstitutional. The Montana Supreme Court agreed, so the legislature had to reimplement a speed limit. Fuck you, Rudy Stanko, you useless fucking cunt. As if selling tainted meat to school lunch programs wasn't bad enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    Everybody knows why we have a speed limit right? Because the world's ultimate fuckknob refused to pay his $5 ticket, claiming that "reasonable and prudent" was facially vague and therefore unconstitutional. The Montana Supreme Court agreed, so the legislature had to reimplement a speed limit. Fuck you, Rudy Stanko, you useless fucking cunt. As if selling tainted meat to school lunch programs wasn't bad enough.
    I knew MT used to be more reasonable and prudent, but I'd never heard that name until now. I spent 5 minutes reading about him and holy shit, that guy should be strung up.

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    Those were good days. I went from Missoula to Billings with the cruise set at 125 the whole way. Only slowed down a couple times (passes, cities). Then that fucker ruined everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    , Rudy Stanko, .
    looks like that was imposed one year after i left mt....when i came back it was in an rv so speed limit was moot...but since....ive been pulled ovr in my truk aftr changin to 20's on the wheelies....(hey but removed 3" lift- lol) .......i keep limit pegged but wheel swap had me 5-7 over....sucks...back in the day ....none of this would b concern ....unless rollin out of State...times they are a changin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiCol View Post
    ...times they are a changin...
    First it was a speed limit, then an open container law. If you left before before there was a speed limit times aren't a changin' - they done changed. Driving is only a small part of it ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Those were good days. I went from Missoula to Billings with the cruise set at 125 the whole way. Only slowed down a couple times (passes, cities). Then that fucker ruined everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    I once passed a Highway Patrolman on Bozeman Pass while I was doing 115 in a Honda Accord. Nothing happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryFunk View Post
    First it was a speed limit, then an open container law. If you left before before there was a speed limit times aren't a changin' - they done changed. Driving is only a small part of it ...
    well i quit drinking too...lol....i remember back in the day having a cooler in the vehicle at all times....
    but yeah, now all i see are casinos and med weed shops
    ive been wondering about the sales tax thing
    o and up in bozeman the rockin r moved sides, building blew up, ive still got the OG puked stained red pool table felt framed....and billings got a fancy ball park, butte got a deeper lake, great falls got big boxed and.....
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    I remember '83 or '84 when friends and I were driving from Missoula to Bozeman for the Cat-Griz game, drinking beers the whole way. We got pulled over for speeding. Cop looked at the pile of cans on the floor of the backseat, shook his head, handed the driver the $5 speeding ticket, and we were on our way.

    Edit: Actually back then I think it was a ticket for "wasting natural resources" since they didn't really have a speed limit. That was what they gave you if they thought you were going too fast.

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    2012 SW Montana Conditions, Stoke and Whatev Thread

    ^^^ Two good things about those $5 "wasting natural resources" tickets.

    1) they were not traffic tickets, so they did not go on your record or make your insurance go up.
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    2) they were technically a 1-day permit to waste resources (not a violation), so you could haul ass for the rest of the day. If you got pulled over again that day, just show the cop the previous $5 ticket and off you go.

    Then they went "reasonable and prudent" and the $5 tickets went away and you could do anything you want.

    Those were the days.


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    just read on yayhoo that kanye west and kardashians are moving to wyoming...so i guess they were scoping big sky when they had the house party album launch or whatever recently....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Cop looked at the pile of cans on the floor of the backseat, shook his head, .
    if the driver is not drinking i dont understand the issue with this and never really have....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiCol View Post
    if the driver is not drinking i dont understand the issue with this and never really have....
    In this case the driver was most certainly drinking, in fact he might have even had one between his legs. We didn't make any effort to cover it up. I think the cop had to make a determination on whether the driver was drunk, and he decided no. As I recall you used to be able to legally drink and drive back then in Montana, as long as you weren't drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    In this case the driver was most certainly drinking, in fact he might have even had one between his legs. We didn't make any effort to cover it up. I think the cop had to make a determination on whether the driver was drunk, and he decided no. As I recall you used to be able to legally drink and drive back then in Montana, as long as you weren't drunk.
    oh wow! thats pretty wild that was allowed
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    http://www.choteauacantha.com/news/a...9e71cc128.html

    Choteau resident Charles Hlavac, the former manager of the Teton Pass Ski Resort, has purchased the ski area west of Choteau from owner Nick Wood of New Zealand and several other investors.

    Hlavac, who managed the ski area from 2010 to 2017, announced on Sept. 6 that he had completed the purchase of the ski area assets through a contract-for-deed with Wood’s resort company and hopes to be able to open the ski area, located on the Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest about 25 miles west of Choteau, for the 2019-20 ski season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    In this case the driver was most certainly drinking, in fact he might have even had one between his legs. We didn't make any effort to cover it up. I think the cop had to make a determination on whether the driver was drunk, and he decided no. As I recall you used to be able to legally drink and drive back then in Montana, as long as you weren't drunk.
    Open containers used to be legal in multiple states, maybe a lot of them, and I think Montana may have been one of the last holdouts. Vermont didn't have an anti-open-container-while-driving law until 2001 or 2002, which I remember because I had assume there was one (since half the Maine Driver's Ed curriculum is "bad things related to drinking and driving"), and the week before I saw a news article about the law about to be effective, I had been sitting in traffic in a car with no AC, in hot weather, with cold beer calling my name from the passenger footwell. If I'd realize it were legal, at least one of those beers wouldn't have made it home.

    Relatedly, a lot of Vermont stores did, and maybe still do, sell singles from six- and twelve-packs. I was taught that it was important to always check a twelve pack before leaving the store to make sure it actually had twelve beers.

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    I'm pretty sure the reason Montana ended the open-container policy was that the feds were threatening to withhold Federal Highway dollars unless open containers were outlawed. I still reference a lot of drives around here in terms of number of beers vs. hours (Bozeman to Big Sky is one tallboy for reference).

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    Yeah, back in the early 80s it was fine. When my wife was a kid they went up to big sky a few times a month and she could tell how close they were getting just by how many beers her dad had drank. Mind you she was looking through the truck cab window from the back trailer so not exact science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyBill View Post
    http://www.choteauacantha.com/news/a...9e71cc128.html

    Choteau resident Charles Hlavac, the former manager of the Teton Pass Ski Resort, has purchased the ski area west of Choteau from owner Nick Wood of New Zealand and several other investors.

    Hlavac, who managed the ski area from 2010 to 2017, announced on Sept. 6 that he had completed the purchase of the ski area assets through a contract-for-deed with Wood’s resort company and hopes to be able to open the ski area, located on the Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest about 25 miles west of Choteau, for the 2019-20 ski season.
    Also heard they are going to change the name, which is a good idea given the popularity of the "other" Teton Pass among skiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Then they went "reasonable and prudent"
    I thought this was the coolest thing when I lived in Missoula. It’s basically “how fast can you get your POS to go on a straightaway” . I got pulled over doing 110 in an Isuzu trooper. The slightest breeze wouldve probably blown me off the road. I got a ticket for $25 for reckless driving or something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    In this case the driver was most certainly drinking, in fact he might have even had one between his legs..
    I thought that WAS the law. As long as you had your beer in a cup holder you were ok. Between the legs is dangerous and there’s a spill hazard. I honestly recall that was told to us by a cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyBill View Post
    http://www.choteauacantha.com/news/a...9e71cc128.html

    Choteau resident Charles Hlavac, the former manager of the Teton Pass Ski Resort, has purchased the ski area west of Choteau from owner Nick Wood of New Zealand and several other investors.

    Hlavac, who managed the ski area from 2010 to 2017, announced on Sept. 6 that he had completed the purchase of the ski area assets through a contract-for-deed with Wood’s resort company and hopes to be able to open the ski area, located on the Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest about 25 miles west of Choteau, for the 2019-20 ski season.
    Great news, Charles is a quality guy and will do a good job. Hopefully the snow shows up.

    I'm pretty sure the reason Montana ended the open-container policy was that the feds were threatening to withhold Federal Highway dollars unless open containers were outlawed.
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