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  1. #15101
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    looks like 3-6" up high tomorrow night

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    Starting to feel desperate, could use a miracle dump. RLM opening on time but barely. One lift one run. Careful out there.


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    Thanks for dental recs guys. Sounds like Chapman is good.

    I have an appt at MT Ski Tuning and Boot Fitting in 2 weeks (earliest I could get) for a complete new boot setup. Will report back to the mags. Sounds like everyone has been happy so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notchtop View Post
    Starting to feel desperate, could use a miracle dump. RLM opening on time but barely. One lift one run. Careful out there.


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    Patience, a slow start typically leads to a strong season...
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    2012 Montana Conditions, Stoke and Whatev Thread

    According to my completely unscientific observations, the November/December drought has been in effect for about 3-4 years running in the Bridgers.

    Does the fact that we have less snow on the ground bode well for the seasonal snowpack structure at BBowl?

    Depends on how long the limited snow we do have sits and facets on north/east facing slopes. A bunch of consistently steady snowfalls and moderate temps could heal it.

    The again, less consistent snow and a plunge into frigid temps would most certainly be a bad omen, resulting in a very weak pack all over.

    What about the Tobacco Roots? They have been hammered with early snowfall compared to the other ranges. That’s a more complex issue. The crew at Bell Lake hopes to report back next week after some poking around.

  6. #15106
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    If you're wondering how we are comparing to previous years, play around with this tool from SNOTEL (this is Brackett Creek)

    https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/W...t%20Creek.html

    Brackett Creek SNOTEL is only a smidge under median, same with Lone Peak and Shower Falls. Albro Lake looks to be just above median. So I don't think it's time to panic just yet. We really are just one good storm away from being at or above median. It's taken me almost 20 years to lose the SWMT early season drought angst. I try not to worry until at least christmas (or like last year, a delayed BB opening).

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    If you're wondering how we are comparing to previous years, play around with this tool from SNOTEL (this is Brackett Creek)

    https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/W...t%20Creek.html
    Thanks for sharing, this is a sweet visualization. Had not seen it previously
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    Looks like I'll be on the WROD and trying that fancy ass new chair on Turkey day for a few hours in the AM. Ask for change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    If you're wondering how we are comparing to previous years, play around with this tool from SNOTEL (this is Brackett Creek)

    https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/W...t%20Creek.html

    Brackett Creek SNOTEL is only a smidge under median, same with Lone Peak and Shower Falls. Albro Lake looks to be just above median. So I don't think it's time to panic just yet. We really are just one good storm away from being at or above median. It's taken me almost 20 years to lose the SWMT early season drought angst. I try not to worry until at least christmas (or like last year, a delayed BB opening).
    Interesting graphic, thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    If you're wondering how we are comparing to previous years, play around with this tool from SNOTEL (this is Brackett Creek)

    https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/W...t%20Creek.html

    Brackett Creek SNOTEL is only a smidge under median, same with Lone Peak and Shower Falls. Albro Lake looks to be just above median. So I don't think it's time to panic just yet. We really are just one good storm away from being at or above median. It's taken me almost 20 years to lose the SWMT early season drought angst. I try not to worry until at least christmas (or like last year, a delayed BB opening).
    A fellow USDA data enthusiast! I'm a big fan of using SNOTEL data to convince myself that there's time for it to get better, it's already really good, or "huh, that was, in fact, a rough season". It can be used to address all of the common emotions encountered during a ski season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    Interesting graphic, thx.
    Trackhead, where in Montana are you located, now? I just remember consistently using your observations while I was living in the Wasatch. You still getting after it like you did before? Or has fatherhood made you into the fat, lazy shit that all of us seemingly have the potential to become?
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    Anyone have beta on Disco opening? Website says thanksgiving opening but nothing on the socials. Any word on conditions or opening?

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    Bridger Bowl question:
    Can someone help me understand how to reconcile BB's claim of 300" annually vs. an average of 222" from 2011-2020 (click on "Annual" here)?

    Is this just the snowfall that feel between opening and closing day vs BB quoting 10/1 - last measured snow of the spring, even post-close?

    The numbers seem pretty far off, and from what I've seen the resort prides itself on one or two 24" storms a season, which would mean a really low amount of snow the rest of the days.

    Thank you!

    Hope it's an amazing year for everyone!

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    Are you going to ski or not? That's how I reconcile it.

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    Those Onthesnow numbers seem very dubious, some might even say, utter bullshit..Click image for larger version. 

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    For example, 2016/17 and 339" Max base depth?

    FWIW BB is pretty honest about their snow totals and does not rely on cheap tricks such as annual snowfall totals. The numbers used are from open to close. But don't take my word, simply ask Bobbybill.
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    Shop rats are back in the nest and we're ready to slay the K. ON YOUR LEFT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR View Post
    Trackhead, where in Montana are you located, now? I just remember consistently using your observations while I was living in the Wasatch. You still getting after it like you did before? Or has fatherhood made you into the fat, lazy shit that all of us seemingly have the potential to become?
    I'm in the tiny dustbowl otherwise known as Townsend enjoying rural life. Just moved down after 7 yrs in Alaska. Wanted to live in a tiny town, off the radar. I still get out a lot, or I did in AK, but I also really enjoy riding lifts with my 10yr old and did so quite a lot last winter because there was no in-person school. So this year I'll ski during the week when he's in school, then ride lifts with him on weekends.

    I'm not a fat lazy shit....yet. But I'm looking forward to the day when I'm old enough and won't mind being one

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    Quote Originally Posted by total_immortal View Post
    Anyone have beta on Disco opening? Website says thanksgiving opening but nothing on the socials. Any word on conditions or opening?
    They've been blowing snow but almost no base. Afaik they "might" try and open next week but that would be optimistic. Troller I was talking to yesterday said they are still waiting on a few things for the new RFID system as well. I'll prob go grab my pass this weekend and take a peek but I've been around the lake and we havent gotten much besides freezing rain lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunion 2020 View Post
    Those Onthesnow numbers seem very dubious, some might even say, utter bullshit..

    For example, 2016/17 and 339" Max base depth?
    I learned in March it stops snowing - 0" of average snowfall for the month. After all those great March pow days I skied there, I had no idea.

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    Mr. K was rowdy today. Ribbon-like. Oh and the new chair is REALLY fast. Like the fasted ft/sec chair I have ever been on I am pretty sure.

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    Well, took about a day and a half till Swifty 6 started breaking down.

    Swifty Session Pale Ale by Map, OTOH, is quite tasty.

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    At least there is the Explorer lift as a back up! Haven't tried the session ale yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Well, took about a day and a half till Swifty 6 started breaking down.

    Swifty Session Pale Ale by Map, OTOH, is quite tasty.

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    Well, as long as there wasn’t a full scale evacuation, I call it a success. Is a Sunday mission to the really Big on anyone’s radar? Might be my first lift-served day of the season!


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    No rope evac, but a hard stop and drop (like I thought the cable broke), then a couple feet backwards. Felt really weird and sketch to me. Then a 15-20 minute shutdown later (we were not on), then a period during which they ran all the chairs empty. I'm sure they just need to work out the kinks.

    But yeah fun opening weekend. They upgraded us for free from the Wastewater to a Huntley Loft due to a maintenance issue, and the bars and restaurants are half empty and employees are chill and happy so the mountain village is actually pretty pleasant. And a bootfitter at LMS saved my ass free of charge with a problem on my wife's boot that threatened to end our day before it started. And we met friends for beers at Scissorbills. All good IMO, even the ice patches on Tippy's. Requires your attention.

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