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    Hernias cured by accupunture and herbs?

    Anyone have any experience with a minor hernia being cured by anything besides surgery....I noticed signs of a hernia about a month ago and I do not show any protrusions just pain in my lower right side area. I think I initally agrivated it running with out support then climbing wide stuff this fall. So it was probably sports related. Anyone with any sort of experience with hernias much appreaciated.

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    if there is no bulge,why do you think its a hernia?
    if it is ,herb wont help
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    A doc told me its a hernia. You can feel it but not see it protruding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by higheddies View Post
    A doc told me its a hernia. You can feel it but not see it protruding.
    I had an open inguinal hernia repair with mesh plug prosthesis two months ago. I'd say I'm 95% recovered. Took a week before I could walk full speed, then another week before I felt about 70%. Go get surgery, quit fucking around with bullshit alternatives that won't work. It's an easy surgery, and not nearly as painful as everyone spews about on the internet.

    The only nasty thing post op was bruising in places you'd rather not have it. That, and, I'd suggest not taking much in the way of narcotics, as they can slow your bowel down, which when you're recovering from hernia surgery, isn't something you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    I had an open hernia repair with mesh plug prosthesis two months ago. I'd say I'm 95% recovered. Go get surgery, quit fucking around with bullshit alternatives that won't work. It's an easy surgery, and not nearly as painful as everyone spews about on the internet.
    Agree with the mesh,but would choose the scope
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    You can't be serious. You've had a medical diagnosis and you want internet relief?
    I would advise giving your head a shake, but not so hard that you herniate it.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    I believe the cure is in a place called Gimp Central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon gaper View Post
    Agree with the mesh,but would choose the scope
    Open repair has lower incidence of post op problems, and return to work time is only like a day or two longer. My incision is 1" long.

    Either way..........

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    Thanks a bunch trackhead and everyone else fer responding, I just rather look for other options before getting cut if i can and wondering if anyone else has gone this route

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    I have the old six inch scar from a hernia op done in the 70's. I came out of anesthesia cussing like, well, like I always do, only more, when the demerol wore off. I had like 13 clamps on my gut.

    higheddies - I don't know of any remedy outside surgery that will grow the hole back together.
    The longer you wait the more it tears and the more your gut will be increasingly protruding over time.

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    well if i got cut soon id be skiing by the time theres snow on the ground

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    Have u ever heard of Dr Ding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by higheddies View Post
    well if i got cut soon id be skiing by the time theres snow on the ground

    At this rate, no doubt.

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    Out of SLC and PC, hes practices Chinese Medicine and Ive heard hes really good from a bunch of skiers. He works on US Ski Team members, etc. http://www.drdingchina.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by higheddies View Post
    Out of SLC and PC, hes practices Chinese Medicine and Ive heard hes really good from a bunch of skiers. He works on US Ski Team members, etc. http://www.drdingchina.com/
    I saw Dr. Hashimoto at Alta View. Great surgeon. Stop fucking around and wasting your season. Just go get the surgery.

    I went ski touring early season with a 15lb kid on my back three weeks after the surgery.

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    thanks Trackhead will do, im seein a surgeon on the 22nd, do u think i should just not ski till i get cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by higheddies View Post
    thanks Trackhead will do, im seein a surgeon on the 22nd, do u think i should just not ski till i get cut?
    If it doesn't hurt, then do it. Strangulation is the risk, but that's rare. People in countries with socialized healthcare routinely wait months or years to get them fixed. Up to you.

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    YES

    Conclusion to all below: YES and it's the best option cause you do not want to fuse the vertebrae or cut away tissue holding the sack o goo that pads your vertebrae. Just keep the inflammation down and you are golden.

    On to my story:
    I have a l5/s1 bulge that was causing my right foot to be numb, tingle and loose feeling and use of my calf muscle. I went to a Dr and got an xray then got sent to a neurologist who had me get a MRI. The MRI showed the bulge and how it was pressing on the spinal cord causing the loss of feeling and use. I have disc degeneration throughout my spine. To many hardpack landings on my gangly tall body.

    The neuro said she can cut away the bulge and it will releive the pressure on the nerve and will return all use. I am not a surgery guy.... avoid it at all costs... but this is use of my leg or not. So I looked into all the options she told me of and decided to stay away from all of em. I asked for a physical therapy reference and began a program with a spine specialist.

    At the same time got an appointment in incline village, nv with a wonderful acupuncturist named Dr. Kerrigan. He said I had no blood moving around there and thus it wasn't healing. On the table full of needles I felt my lower back warm up and relax in about 15mins. 1 session with him and I was able to walk with my right leg again and was free of the numbness. He gave me herbs to take for about a year or so. He said keeping the inflation down is key. He has been 100% correct.

    So acupuncture worked for me. Still working. If I cut and split to much wood or pick my kids up without proper posture a bunch, it will get inflammed and I need to take it easy... but nothing like taking more than an Ibuprofen if I really over do it.

    Overall, I take zyflammend (by new chapter) or Wobenzym for inflammation. Hit the gym three days a week doing a full body workout adding a little more core in my pullups and resting times. Visit the acupuncturist 3 - 4x a year for a checkup to keep current for overall Wellness. I try to keep impact sports to a min, ie running on pavement, but still huck my meat on pow days, just no all day park sessions any more...

    Cut down / out the inflammatory foods like dairy and coffee for example. Take time and heal up man!

    I hope that helps some...
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    Quote Originally Posted by furball View Post
    You can't be serious. You've had a medical diagnosis and you want internet relief?
    I would advise giving your head a shake, but not so hard that you herniate it.
    I think he's smart to ask around and look into it. If you trust your Doctor without question... Sheep.
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    Asking for anecdotes about people who frequently don't even understand your problem is frequently unproductive, although this thread has been unusually unanimous... except this moron:

    buildakicker you are a fucking idiot. OP does not have a herniated intravertebral disc or whatever you had with your spine. OP has an abdominal (inguinal?) hernia.

    OP, you have splat, one of the most pro-"alternative-medicine" people on the forums telling you to get surgery. If splat says get surgery, /thread
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    Has the OP yet considered trying to cure his hernia with astrology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Asking for anecdotes about people who frequently don't even understand your problem is frequently unproductive, although this thread has been unusually unanimous... except this moron:

    buildakicker you are a fucking idiot. OP does not have a herniated intravertebral disc or whatever you had with your spine. OP has an abdominal (inguinal?) hernia.

    OP, you have splat, one of the most pro-"alternative-medicine" people on the forums telling you to get surgery. If splat says get surgery, /thread
    I answered his question. Can acupuncture help and yes it can... regardless of the injury. If surgery is needed by all means, it's good to look at the alternatives.

    ...and I guess I missed where he said he had an ab hernia. I had pain in my lower right side and it was the back.
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    I'm a general surgeon. I've also had two hernias repaired. Hernias are often misdiagnosed by nonsurgeons--did your surgeon confirm the diagnosis? There's no hurry to have the surgery if you're not having much pain--I waited a year for one of mine. There's little advantage to a laparoscopic repair for a first time, one sided hernia and more risk of complications. I personally prefer to use a light or soft mesh patch without the plug for most repairs. The main risk of hernia repair is chronic pain in the area and the risk seems to be higher with standard meshes and plugs-the less mesh material the better, although some kind of mesh should be used to reduce the risk of the hernia coming back. Running without support would not cause a hernia nor would climbing (climbing could cause a muscle strain, which would feel like a hernia without the pain). The biggest strain on the hernia area is caused by coughing and sneezing, not by activity or even lifting. (Do not let anyone with a cold anywhere near you before or after the surgery until the pain is mostly gone.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by higheddies View Post
    Have u ever heard of Dr Ding?
    Dr ding knows his shit. I went to him a bunch couple years ago for my back injury. I would walk in hunched over in pain walk out right as rain. .Made the mistake of counting how many needles he stuck in me once. 37!...did I mention I hate needles? My only gripe I's that he is often so busy with a few patients at once that he often has to rush, and he has accidently left a couple needles in arm before. it makes it Very affordable tho....Anyone who knocks the benifits acupuncture or even massage therapy and ciro has never had it done right

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    The biggest strain on the hernia area is caused by coughing and sneezing, not by activity or even lifting. (Do not let anyone with a cold anywhere near you before or after the surgery until the pain is mostly gone.)
    Interesting about the lifting part. I was convinced mine came about from going crazy on squats and other silly lifting routines. When I noticed mine, it was after having a bad cold for two weeks. Go figure.

    I thought I was getting sick before the surgery, and panicked about coughing my brains out after it. I guess hydrocodone would be a great cough suppressant if that were the case.

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