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11-08-2017, 12:35 AM #1676
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11-08-2017, 12:50 AM #1677
Ah, not just cutting off flush. Got it
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11-08-2017, 06:42 AM #1678
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11-08-2017, 07:40 AM #1679
I was nervous as hell my first two mounts. Most of my concerns were unfounded. You probably did a better job than most shops. Sounds like they are fine - just ski them.
If you want to remove the bindings and cleanup the volcanoes:
0) Open beer
1) Heat up the screws with a soldering iron for a few seconds to soften up the epoxy and they will come right out
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11-08-2017, 09:24 AM #1680Registered User
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I have a beater pair of the OG Armada ARGs which have demo bindings on them now for friends and family to use if they dont have pow skis. I want to get my lady friend out for a tour this weekend but dont want to kill her skis on all the rocks we will hit, so i was thinking about just ripping the F12s off her skis and throwing them on the ARGs for the weekend, and then swapping the demo bindings back on in a few weeks.
Id like to not have to plug the demo binding holes and then redrill them... so i was thinking about just throwing some duct tape over the holes to prevent water from getting in haha. how horrible of an idea is that?
Also, how man times do you all think it is smart to rip bindings off and then reuse the same holes... basically treating the holes as inserts, without the inserts.
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11-08-2017, 02:07 PM #1681Registered User
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Hi all! This is a great forum and reading it has already given me the confidence and knowledge to mount my friend's fucking skis, and I'll be mounting my own with BF inserts when the skis arrive.
Question though - I'm in Canada (Calgary) and even though the prices from Binding Freedom are very reasonable and I've ordered a few things from there already, if I just need to order some machine screws for different bindings it can get very cost-inefficient to order from there once you account for shipping.
Does anyone know a good store to get the right machine screws from? If there is a Canadian store selling ski specific stuff that would be perfect, but would even just a hardware store sell these?
Thanks!
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11-08-2017, 02:36 PM #1682Registered User
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Sorry but your buddy kinda f'd you over. What you should really do is remove the bindings and install inserts not helicoils. Go to bindingfreedom.com and purchase inserts, insert install kit, screw kit for your clamps, epoxy, and vibra-tite (locktite for the screws that doesn't melt plastic) and you will easily be able to re-mount with inserts. It will cost you some $$$ but you will have the most bomber mount and will also be able to remove your bindings at will for travel, etc. You will also be all set to mount any other skis with inserts from the get go (as god intended).
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11-08-2017, 02:52 PM #1683
Never been in your situation - but here's what I'd do.
Pull and countersink.
Use epoxy [and perhaps some filler, plastic spheres or wood "flour" mixed in the epoxy].
[Edit: I realized I didn't say this - but I usually use a syringe with ~12ga tips to put epoxy in the hole and smear on the vertical surfaces. Toothpicks work too, but it's more fiddly, and messy. Don't fill them clear up - perhaps 1/4-1/3.]
Remount with regular screws.
[Go easy, while tightening the screws - especially on anything that seems dodgy.]
Ski em and see how it goes.
If that has problems, then use BindingFreedom or QuiverKillers as the "fix."
My guess is you won't have any issues with an epoxy re-mount. [Especially if you're a mere mortal, and not cliff bombing huge airs etc.]
Looks like you're likely NZ/Aus - so I'm not sure how easily QK/BF inserts will be to find and what the cost will be - so I'd lean toward a re-mount until you have to do something "better."
If you were near me, I'd say come on by and I've got all the tools to do the BF inserts and you'd be set, cheap-ish. Perhaps you have someone you can lean on locally...
Good luck.
-Greg
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11-08-2017, 03:19 PM #1684
I'll probably get one of these as I need the proper stepped drill bit for my other ski mounts. Better than doing it with a knife.
Yep, agreed! So inserts > helicoils?
Thanks for the offer, but yeah located down under. I do live in a ski town so have access to mounting stuffs... Good tip with the expoy syringe!
Consensus all seems the same. Pull and standard remount, give it a shot atleast. What can possibly go wrong?
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11-08-2017, 03:30 PM #1685
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11-08-2017, 03:37 PM #1686
Why risk damage to a $$$ ski for the price of a $ stepped bit?
Many/most stepped bits are flared at the top and will countersink the hole to eliminate "volcanos".
Just use the right tool for the job.
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11-08-2017, 03:45 PM #1687Registered User
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Some of you shouldn't be allowed to use power tools but you can just rotate a 3/8th inch bit by hand on a hole or even after you volcano'ed it
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-08-2017, 07:43 PM #1688
Remounting all my sticks with BF inserts for STH. One step closer to the one boot, one (alpine) binding quiver. Still undecided on inserts for my touring skis. Finished with the BGs and SNs. 50% through the Bonafide and just waiting on more inserts to show up in the mail. Installing the inserts was a lot easier than I thought!
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11-08-2017, 08:50 PM #1689
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11-09-2017, 09:03 AM #1690Registered User
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how many times can you rip and remount bindings into the existing holes without totally fucking them up?
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11-09-2017, 09:32 AM #1691Registered User
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what does " rip " mean?
slow set and chopped up FG filler has let me reuse holesLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-09-2017, 09:53 AM #1692Registered User
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11-09-2017, 10:03 AM #1693Registered User
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Mix fiberglass with epoxy. Stuff into holes. Mount binding. Let cure. Snug up binding screws in the morning. Tada.
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11-09-2017, 10:15 AM #1694Registered User
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Yup, slow set 2 part epoxy for previously used holes and if the holes are damaged at all chop up FG into 1/2" strands, mix with 2 part and cram it into the screw hole, let cure for 24 hrs
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-09-2017, 02:45 PM #1695
Thanks for all the help, TGR can be a good place haha.
Gonna use quiverkiller on my skis, they look bomber. Do you need to countersink for the inserts? I will have to anyway due to the already volcanos, but for future reference.
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11-09-2017, 04:27 PM #1696
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11-11-2017, 01:17 PM #1697
Popped my cherry and mounted my own fucking skis. Got jiggy with it on Pivots, but still..
Seems like a gateway to moar skis which didn’t require any additional motivation.
Had a minor snafu then a vet mag provided some guidance. Thanks dude!
I’d mention him but then y’all might bombard him with your questions.
Getting close around here for inbounds..
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11-11-2017, 01:26 PM #1698
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11-11-2017, 01:36 PM #1699
The heels are a little more challenging but great advice here in the thread explains it well and correctly. After you have ski on elevated surface allowing brakes to be free. Snug up front two screws, then put on brake band to get the rears snug. Then full tight on front, then back. That's what I did anyway..
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11-12-2017, 08:18 AM #1700
So I installed inserts on all of my skis no problems, and got started on my wife’s. Of course I messed it up. One of the inserts went too deep and dimpled (tittied, whichever term you prefer) the base. To make it worse, after a few beers last night, I told her I messed up the install - the response was as expected. I laughed, and you can imagine how the rest played out.
I tried the paper test - cut a hole in the paper around the dimple and laid a ruler on it. There’s between .5-1mm of wobble.
Any recommendations?
Opinions I’m considering:
- back out the insert, heat dimple, bang the shit out of it, reinstall insert
- same as above but with helicoil (is this necessary)?
- leave as is and base grind
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