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11-15-2019, 08:08 PM #2876Registered User
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Tell the shop they owe you a bunch of money for their fuck up and have them drill new holes on the one ski on the line. Tell them you will put the binding on if they have a hang up about it.
If not they can replace both skis and you will take the new ones elsewhere. Any shop worth its salt will accommodate your first request.
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11-16-2019, 12:06 AM #2877
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11-16-2019, 12:17 AM #2878
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11-16-2019, 09:23 AM #2879
Probably.
The ski maker called me last night to discuss (totally rad btw). Skinny: given. He was also on the fence about it, agreed noticeable effect will depend on where the boot center actually ends up after remount - at this point it seems .. difficult to predict.
Meeting with the shop today. Probably do what 2funky suggested ..
I'll let them remount as close to line as they can, measure the 'real' recommended line off the tail, and see how far off the boot center actually ends up.
If not acceptable the shop buys new skis.
And if I keep em, the shop has still agreed to 'make it right' for screwing up the mount, whatever that means.
Add to the mix, these aren't 'off the rack' skis .. actually 1 of a kind. so it'll take a while to get replacements built.
I'll post an update.
Lesson: learned.
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11-16-2019, 10:02 AM #2880
Get new skis
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11-16-2019, 10:06 AM #2881
Ohhh... What skis? Pics?
If the heel can slide (not pivots etc) , just remount, they should be able to find a spot that gets the boot in the right spot. Or swap for bindings with a different hole pattern. Or that have a toes that moves
And then somehow compensate for the fact that the ski now has a second set of holes. Like free tunes or whatever else you need.
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11-16-2019, 10:45 AM #2882
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11-16-2019, 10:46 AM #2883
Another option is to go with a different [free] binding with a different hole pattern. With this option, ask for free bindings and a shop credit for something nice for the wife.
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11-16-2019, 10:58 AM #2884
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11-16-2019, 11:45 AM #2885
Had similar thing happened to me in the past with Christy’s in Cherry Creek, CO — ended up mounting them forward 1 cm but they gave me a free pair of boots!! Bottom line is this shop needs to make it right. Since them I do all my own mounts.
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11-16-2019, 11:46 AM #2886
Seems logical. Pretty much even restitution.
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11-16-2019, 12:01 PM #2887
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11-16-2019, 03:09 PM #2888
Almost forgot to add... mount your own fucking skis
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11-16-2019, 03:21 PM #2889
Custom ON3P c&d 189
Great idea, thanks GS. I ended up doing this. Hole pattern for Shifts didn't overlap for boot center on the line. Though I guess we'll see .. I don't have mounted skis in hand yet. Headed to the shop soon to talk turkeys, will see what I can haggle in.
hey if i can touch em, they're real.
will post creepy pics for comment, if I can negotiate in said boob job (if not, gtfo)
HA! winning!
so boots, NOT boobs? :-/ that's handy to know though, thanks.
And yea. lesson learned the hard way, mount my own f'n skis.
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11-16-2019, 06:11 PM #2890
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
1st, I’ve always followed 1cm center to center for normal mounts, 15mm center to center for inserts. Not edge to edge. Especially on a ski with good cores like ON3P.
2nd, I can’t think of a single binding that has hole interference from remounting 1cm behind the first set of holes. They should have just done this to get that ski to the line and been done with it. Hell most alpine bindings wouldn’t even need to remount the heel to do this, just the toe piece.
3rd, now you know why you mount your own fucking skis, because shop mounts with a jig tend to be considerably worse than a mount done with a paper template and careful measuring - as far as centering it on the ski and getting everything aligned perfectly. Some grubby teenager getting paid $10 an hour doesn’t care that much about how good a job he does mounting your $900 custom skis as you would. Especially when he’s got 10 pairs to do before his shift ends
4th, yeah they should give you free binding/mount/tunes or the like to make up for the screw up on a custom ski (assuming they will mount bindings on the line for you properly) Or just ask them to pay for your new skis and learn how to mount them yourself
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11-16-2019, 06:32 PM #2891Registered User
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11-16-2019, 07:20 PM #2892
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11-16-2019, 08:00 PM #2893
acutally im 54 makes bout twice that mount at least 5 if not 10 times that daily been doin it for decades now and even with large drug intake my fuck up rate isn't that high
but you obviously stay at the holiday inns and like to type about mounting expertise
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11-16-2019, 08:54 PM #2894Registered User
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11-16-2019, 09:40 PM #2895
Resolve: I go home with my original bindings, plus shop mounts different binders with no hole overlap which put boots where I want (at no cost). Plus a little store credit. *Unfortunately there are no 'mounted on-the-line silicone tits for ms middle' included in the deal.
Mistakes happen. They're good folks, it's a good shop. A small town outfit I've know for decades. I appreciate their accountability.
I'm as satisfied with the resolution as I can be. Sure I'd rather it didn't happen, but we found a solution. One that shouldn't effect ski performance. At the end of the day the skis will rip, and I learned a valuable lesson: Mount your own f'n skis.
I've got some old binding change-outs to learn on - I'll be doing my own f'n mounts from now on.
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11-16-2019, 10:05 PM #2896Registered User
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Most excellent.
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11-16-2019, 11:13 PM #2897
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
Yes not talking about guru skifishbums And I was assuming this particular tech is getting to this pair at the end of the work day
But really I’d wager many who turn to mounting their own skis do so after a shop screws up their nice new pair of sticks. (Myself included)
Can’t tell you how many used skis I’ve seen with crooked, misaligned, and non-symmetric left vs right ski holes when I mount them. Make difference when skiing them? Usually not. But 1cm off obviously would
Since you’ve used so many jigs you’re surely aware that they’re not the most precise tools to keep the binding aligned straight down the middle of the ski. And it’s easy to have one ski mounted a little bit further forward than the other
Paper templates are slower and require more measuring/patience and would never work in a shop environment. But the end results can be much more accurate. And they’re free
Why not type? I’m just waiting to move back to a state with hills higher than 150ft right now. And I sleep in a van, man
^^ Glad to hear the shop took care of you MiddleNight. Enjoy those skis
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11-17-2019, 09:31 AM #2898
The Swiss cheese incident. I plugged the black holes and mounted on the open holes
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11-17-2019, 10:22 AM #2899Registered User
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Are those plastic plugs??
If so there is no way i would trust those 2 back holes.
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