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09-06-2021, 08:48 PM #4926
Love it. Burliest jig in the land.
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09-06-2021, 09:42 PM #4927
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09-11-2021, 05:39 PM #4928
Need some BF inserts…anybody holding?
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09-13-2021, 09:32 PM #4929Registered User
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I need to remount a pair of Rossignol Axial3 120s. Hoping to just change the toe to the get the mid-sole where I want it for a smaller BSL.
Two questions though:
1. How sensitive are the tracks on these to adjustment range? Is anywhere on the track fine to ski at? They've got a huge range - I'll try to stay in the middle of it if possible but just curious.
2. Best option for plugging the old holes - plastic plug and epoxy or some other method?
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09-14-2021, 07:04 AM #4930
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
I believe there is a window visible when the heel is engaged which shows an acceptable forward pressure range. If it is all clear or all yellow you are out of range (boot engaged). 50/50 ideal although that is hard to nail perfectly. Some clear some yellow you are good. It is likely impossible to know off the ski. I don’t know the available range or where it is now within that range but likely you don’t have a ton of toe only movement available. How much smaller you going? +\- 1cm from midsole shouldn’t concern you too much so a little wiggle there.
Plastic plugs are fine. I dip them in epoxy first, tap them in then lop their heads off with either a straight razor or a Dremel tool (easier if you have one to get them flush). Folks here will advocate for wood dowels but that is typically more so if you need to snug up to old holes.Uno mas
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09-14-2021, 08:50 AM #4931Registered User
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Super helpful, thank you.
I don't think the toes have any adjustment in them, so I have to get the heel all the way forwards (or within the last 2 clicks on the track) to get my boots in and it puts the mid-sole +1 of the line. The skis are already center mounted, so I think it's worth mounting the toes back to get the mid-sole at or behind the line. I'll check to see if the indicator seems OK back a couple CM and then move the toes accordingly.
I've got a Dremel so that'll be easy.
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09-14-2021, 09:18 AM #4932
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
Yeah only adjustment in demo binder toes.
I would slide the heel piece back to the point of where you midsole is on the line when you jam the boot back w/ your hand (w the heel engaged)and see how much clearance you have between the toe of the boot and where the binder toe piece sits now. You’ll likely need to mark the ski to measure. This is roughly the distance you’ll have to remount the toe backward. If it less than 1cm it is going to be tight. My sense is if it is still touching during this super scientific exercise you won’t be able to generate enough forward pressure on the line so you’ll have to move the toe BUT there is a risk you won’t be able to minimize the forward pressure appropriately once the toe is moved as you won’t have enough rearward track left …without also moving the heel but you could start with a toe and take it from there.
This all assumes your forward pressure can be set appropriately for your boot now.Uno mas
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09-14-2021, 05:57 PM #4933Registered User
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With the boot in now I am +1 of the line with the heel slid up about 1-2 clicks from the end of the track. It seems like it has plenty of forward pressure, but just looks a bit off and the indicator isn't showing 50/50 yellow and clear.
I'd like to be on the line or -1, maybe even -2. Going further back than that looks less than ideal since the mount point is a true center mount and the skis are symmetrical in rocker. With that in mind, my plan was to move the toes back 2cm - 2.5cm which should put me closer to the middle of the heel track while getting the mid-sole more where I want it. This all lines up with the test method above - very scientific indeed.
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09-14-2021, 06:53 PM #4934
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
Maybe but you may want to move that heel tray around to see if you can get mixed colors in that window first. Do you know if the mount is even for your bsl?
More macro thought is that going back on a skis designed to be center mounted isn’t likely to make it ski more directional. Could just get weird.
From the info you shared I am not sure anything will work out as planned. Forward pressure isn’t just enough pressure, it is proper load on the springs so they release as designed.Uno mas
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09-14-2021, 07:26 PM #4935Registered User
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The current mount is for 328, my bsl is 305. So in theory moving the toes back ~2cm should get the bindings in the right range to work properly. Left one ski with the binding where it was - it shows about 90% yellow. On the other ski, regardless of where on the track I adjust the binding it shows the same thing in the indicator window. Maybe it needs to have a boot in it to register properly, so I'll mess with that later.
I'm not a sensitive enough skier to pick up on a 1cm mount difference but I'd rather be 1cm back than forward - that's my only thinking here with moving just the toes. I'll probably give it a go in the next few days.
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09-14-2021, 08:11 PM #4936
PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.
Yes move the toe back 2cm. You should end up 2cm back from the recommend mark. Boot has to be engaged for that window to read anything.
Alternatively toe goes back 1cm and heel up 1cm and you end up on the line.Uno mas
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09-14-2021, 09:00 PM #4937Registered User
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moving the toe back two centimeters makes for a -.85cm / -8,5mm mount no?
At 328 you have 23mm too wide spacing compared to 305, so 11,5mm on each side if mounted at recommended. So by moving the toe 2cm back the toe first makes it way back to the boot at recommended at 11,5mm, then pushes it back 8.5mm by going the full 2cm, provided the heel can be adjusted 3mm forward to get it to the 305mm spacing.
A -8,5mm mount is not a big deal on most designs.
edit: man, i am too tired to do this kinda of easy math
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09-15-2021, 12:01 AM #4938Registered User
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I'll report back once I've got it mounted up, I think -1cm will be fine for these. I'll be stoked if I get more than a few days in on them this season anyhow so I'm not sweating it, just wanted to be sure I wasn't about to make some unforeseen error. Thanks guys.
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09-15-2021, 05:00 AM #4939
Yeah about -1cm is right. Lazy math in my previous post. I was going off of 325mm to make the math easier but you’d need to bring the toe back 1cm anyway to adjust from 325 to 305 and by sneaking that other 1cm adjustment from the heel also w/ the toe adj you slide about about 1cm back from center. Sorry!
Uno mas
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09-15-2021, 09:26 AM #4940Registered User
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I had to edit the damned post three times as I screwed the up the numbers that many times, hence my "too tired" line
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09-15-2021, 10:46 AM #4941
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10-10-2021, 04:59 PM #4942
Just finished a mount on the devs (-1) and a re-mount on the MBs (+1). Henceforth I will always drill out the extra plastic in binding holes that causes the screw threads to engage in the binding, especially if reusing holes. That, plus clamping the heels down after I got the front heel screws started made install fairly painless.
AFDs on the MBs and pivot/brake assembly are new, direct from Rossi.
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10-11-2021, 10:20 PM #4943Registered User
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Drilled my own planks for the first time, thanks to the patient coaching (and ATK jig) provided by TGapp. Benneke10 provided moral support, and sfb hooked up some plugs for the old holes.
The skis had previously been mounted with Atomic Backlands, which have a really wide mount pattern. This caused a few problems, but nothing insurmountable. Like breakable crust, all it did was add some spice
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10-12-2021, 06:11 AM #4944
strong work pleased to meet ya and be an enabler
i have a hard time not hookin people up with shop stuff we have a lot of
and i think the positive vibe and wom outweighs nickle and diming people for hole plugs
sheldon and i are full time in the millcreek store this season so feel free to come by and hit us up
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10-12-2021, 07:48 AM #4945Registered User
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10-12-2021, 08:00 AM #4946
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10-12-2021, 08:34 AM #4947
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10-12-2021, 09:27 AM #4948
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10-12-2021, 09:52 AM #4949
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10-12-2021, 10:06 AM #4950
You just need to cut the two hold down tabs off, and shave the two alignment nubs down so that they don't protrude past the surrounding plastic base.
I think the waters were muddied by those who were trying to modify the GW AFDs to work with the old toes which is covered in another thread and didn't work well IIRC.
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