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  1. #3676
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Already tried the screws from slidewright and they are too small both in head diameter and thread diameter. Anyone know the part code for Look? Maybe I can get a shop to order me a full bag
    Part Numbers are below, 50 screws per bag from Rossi/Look.
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    You're welcome, and I'll take 12 screws from your bag of 50. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Sweet, do you know how I can get them?
    I recently asked my local shop to order 2 sets of FKS screws, toes and heels. ~$12.50 per set. They arrived at the shop a few days ago but I'm going to wait to pick them up.

  3. #3678
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    Part Numbers are below, 50 screws per bag from Rossi/Look.
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    You're welcome, and I'll take 12 screws from your bag of 50. Thanks.
    Hallelujah I’ll hook you up!

  4. #3679
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    Mounted up some skis for the GF

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  5. #3680
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    Has anyone used a boot toe mark to mount bindings? Do I use the actual boot toe, or the flange(?) part in front?

    I have an older ski and the boot toe is the only reference point.

  6. #3681
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuff View Post
    Has anyone used a boot toe mark to mount bindings? Do I use the actual boot toe, or the flange(?) part in front?

    I have an older ski and the boot toe is the only reference point.
    I answered in the other thread you asked this. It's a BSL(boot SOLE length) measurement, so use the tip of the sole.
    You mounting old Volkls?

  7. #3682
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    I answered in the other thread you asked this. It's a BSL(boot SOLE length) measurement, so use the tip of the sole.
    I deleted that, because I posted it in the wrong thread, and I didn't understand your answer. Until now, after you said the same thing twice. Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    You mounting old Volkls?
    Mounted a pair of 2001-2002 200cm Igneous Fall Line F, 240 flex. Got a boot toe number from Igneous, and a recommendation to move the mount point forward up to an inch. Now that I know what part of the boot to measure from, they're mounted 1 inch forward from the original suggested mount location.

    Bought the skis on craigslist from someone in SLC, free stickers included. skifishbum facilitated the transaction and shipped to me.

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  8. #3683
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuff View Post
    I deleted that, because I posted it in the wrong thread, and I didn't understand your answer. Until now, after you said the same thing twice. Thank you.



    Mounted a pair of 2001-2002 200cm Igneous Fall Line F, 240 flex. Got a boot toe number from Igneous, and a recommendation to move the mount point forward up to an inch. Now that I know what part of the boot to measure from, they're mounted 1 inch forward from the original suggested mount location.

    Bought the skis on craigslist from someone in SLC, free stickers included. skifishbum facilitated the transaction and shipped to me.

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    Right on!
    Those are serious planks!
    Yeah Dibs is a great dude!

  9. #3684
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

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    Finally mounted these after they sat in my garage for almost a year. Still holding out hope that Snowbird will reopen for some summer laps, if not they'll be hanging in the garage till next year I guess.

    I went back and forth about a CAST setup, now I'm wishing I had done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
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    Finally mounted these after they sat in my garage for almost a year. Still holding out hope that Snowbird will reopen for some summer laps, if not they'll be hanging in the garage till next year I guess.

    I went back and forth about a CAST setup, now I'm wishing I had done it.
    Its not too late.

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  11. #3686
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    nice!

    As for Cast, I am sure you are aware - but when they get them back in stock that is a very easy change to make. Swap the front screws for the plate/mounting screws, convert the toe and drill/mount the brake holders parts. Extremely easy.

  12. #3687
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-kapow View Post
    nice!

    As for Cast, I am sure you are aware - but when they get them back in stock that is a very easy change to make. Swap the front screws for the plate/mounting screws, convert the toe and drill/mount the brake holders parts. Extremely easy.
    Oh yeah! It might happen down the road.

  13. #3688
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    Looking at some used skis mounted once with the same bindings and BSL I need. ON3P skis and pivot bindings. What are the thoughts of re-using all the existing holes? What are my odds of getting a spinner/problem in the set of 16 screws? The little screw keepers built in to pivots seem to prevent the ability to back-screw until the threads align and you can tighten without cross threading.

  14. #3689
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtskibum16 View Post
    Looking at some used skis mounted once with the same bindings and BSL I need. ON3P skis and pivot bindings. What are the thoughts of re-using all the existing holes? What are my odds of getting a spinner/problem in the set of 16 screws? The little screw keepers built in to pivots seem to prevent the ability to back-screw until the threads align and you can tighten without cross threading.
    I would just install all screws with fiberglass and slow set marine epoxy per the XXX-er method

    I've used this method with 3 spinners and has been bomber for me. 210lbs and 25 foot cliffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by brundo View Post
    I would just install all screws with fiberglass and slow set marine epoxy per the XXX-er method
    +1. If you are careful, the fiberglass may not be needed but I'd at least have some on hand.

  16. #3691
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtskibum16 View Post
    Looking at some used skis mounted once with the same bindings and BSL I need. ON3P skis and pivot bindings. What are the thoughts of re-using all the existing holes? What are my odds of getting a spinner/problem in the set of 16 screws? The little screw keepers built in to pivots seem to prevent the ability to back-screw until the threads align and you can tighten without cross threading.
    I've reused pivot holes and bindings on at least 4 pairs of skis without the screw keeper issue you refer to. But if it's a problem, you can always take the screws out of the binding and gently drill the plastic to make more room for the screws.

    Also used west systems g-flex epoxy with chopped steel wool mixed in. Works like a champ for me.

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    Just seems like it would be so easy to cross thread without positive feel which the keepers seem to prevent. Did you just thread them in and hope they lined up or what?

    Thanks for the input guys. I figured thatís the response Iíd get. Iím still a ski mount newb (have done 2 pairs) so this shit still makes me nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtskibum16 View Post
    Just seems like it would be so easy to cross thread without positive feel which the keepers seem to prevent. Did you just thread them in and hope they lined up or what?
    That's what I've always done. Have reused pivot holes at least 4 times and have only had 1 or 2 spinners, which I've successfully fixed with chopped up steel wool and epoxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtskibum16 View Post
    Just seems like it would be so easy to cross thread without positive feel which the keepers seem to prevent. Did you just thread them in and hope they lined up or what?

    Thanks for the input guys. I figured thatís the response Iíd get. Iím still a ski mount newb (have done 2 pairs) so this shit still makes me nervous.

    You have it right, use the back-screw method you mentioned and hand tighten. I've had 1 screw cross thread, but not worried about it because of the epoxy and steel wool.

  20. #3695
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    So epoxy and fiberglass even if no spinners? Just make that the plan? I wonder how a pre-used hole is much different than a tapped hole as far as installation goes in which install would be done with nothing but wood glue.

  21. #3696
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    Pretty sure my epoxy is overkill, but it's not much hassle and it gives me peace of mind. When you get those threads lined up, the screws just roll in like the holes are tapped.

  22. #3697
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    Cool. Maybe Iíll drill some holes in a 2x4 and do a couple trial runs before the real deal.

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    FG & epoxy is best practices. if you mess around with remounts even a little at some point you will want slowset 2 part epoxy and some filler ... get it before you actualy need it
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  24. #3699
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    Any marine slow set epoxy will do? I have some FG already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuff View Post
    I've reused pivot holes and bindings on at least 4 pairs of skis without the screw keeper issue you refer to. But if it's a problem, you can always take the screws out of the binding and gently drill the plastic to make more room for the screws.

    Also used west systems g-flex epoxy with chopped steel wool mixed in. Works like a champ for me.
    I don't remember screw keepers on the two pairs of Pivot 14s I mounted a couple of years ago, but I don't see a problem with drilling them out so the screws turn freely.

    Another challenge with Pivots is finagling the half-moon/brake assembly so you can feed the screws cleanly into the holes (perpendicular to the ski). The problem lies in the half-moon / brake assembly being cocked which tends to tilt the screws.

    Others may have adopted simpler techniques, but here's how I address this:

    • Support the tip and tail to raise the ski 3-4" above the bench.
    • Get a small clamp to hold the half-moon / brakes down.
    • Install the two rear screws - fairly tight but not to their final tightness.
    • Install the two front screws.
    • Tighten all of the screws

    The above technique should allow you to feed the screws fairly cleanly and perpendicular to the ski.

    If you have a questionable hole or two, then, yes to FG/epoxy, helicoils, inserts, etc.




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