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  1. #6951
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    Top to bottom:
    Stock pivot heel screw
    Cast heel riser screw
    Slidewright 18mm pz#2 panhead

    Those are your options for the longer heel screws, I'm not aware of anything else out there but still hoping someone has a better solution. You can buy a CAST hardware pack that comes with 4 of the long screws.

    The toe screws and short heel screws are easier to find. Can't remember the exact lengths of those.

  2. #6952
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    Someone finally did it:

  3. #6953
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    Oh yeah, that's all for p15 and p18... P14 and lower use same heel screws as those, different toe screws.

  4. #6954
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    thanks.. now to find some for the toes

  5. #6955
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    Quote Originally Posted by bearcub69 View Post
    thanks.. now to find some for the toes
    For P12s or 14’s,

    Toes:

    Flatheads M21s

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    Panhead M18s

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    (Direct Contact is best vs PMs)

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  6. #6956
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    what about for p18 and p15?

  7. #6957
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    huge shout-out to fleaches for hooking me up

    and obviously to MottN for designing this thing

    it absolutely rocks - wow - so fkn cool.

    now I just need to get my HL skis to mount



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  8. #6958
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    that thing looks sweet
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  9. #6959
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearcub69 View Post
    what about for p18 and p15?
    To help you and others answer that timeless question:

    Measuring for Binding Screws, Drill Bits and Taps

    For the P15-18 Pivot toes (and many bindings):

    1) After measuring total screw length of any random flathead alpine screw, put it in the binding and measure the projection.
    2) Subtract the projection from the total screw length to get binding hole thickness.
    3) Add binding hole thickness to mfgr recommended drilled depth (9.5mm, for instance), to get screw length.
    Best regards, Terry
    (Direct Contact is best vs PMs)

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  10. #6960
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    huge shout-out to fleaches for hooking me up

    and obviously to MottN for designing this thing

    it absolutely rocks - wow - so fkn cool.

    now I just need to get my HL skis to mount



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    I need one of these with Solly MTN

  11. #6961
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    I recently acquired a wide pivot jig. Was lucky a kindly soul found it for me and helped me out. Sadly, no more available

    Willing to share with others, located in south-central WI

  12. #6962
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    Whoah:

    https://whitemountainski.co/products...r-mounting-jig

    As much as I appreciate the utility of the competing JigaRex (and the previously available skimo race plates for Plum, ATK/Hagan, and Dynafit were built directly from bindings and plates that I shipped to the JigaRex), the plate quick-attachment system is so sloppy that the plates need to be duct-taped onto the frame, the frame's width adjustment dial is so loose that the frame needs to be secured to the ski with four large spring clamps, the boot toe interface is way too flexible, the tech-toe pincers are too flexy, and the way in which the frame rests directly on the topskin just doesn't work with some skis (although I've lucked out so far with the few skis I've used it for mounting, sometimes just barely).

    By contrast, although some specialty skimo race binding jigs are solid alu blocks, most jigs start with what sure looks like a generic frame to which each brand's plate is press-fit.
    And my Plum jig came with swappable plates. For I'm not away of any compatible plates for other bindings.

    So, hmm, why not start with that same generic frame and then allow an interchangeable method for each brand's plate?
    That's exactly what this new jig appears to be!

    I'm surprised at the lack of publicity, at least so far.
    And plates are available -- so far -- only for three tele bindings, Trab TR1, and what appears to be the entire Dynafit line although that requires four toe plates and six heel plates (dropping to three and five if you don't bother with the absurdly obscure P49).

    BTW, even if you already have the OEM jig, sometimes such a universal frame jig is helpful for a partial remount (i.e., toe or heel, not both) since you can snap in only the plate you need, then have the jig frame straddle the binding unit that you keep in place.
    Last edited by Jonathan S.; 11-07-2024 at 12:57 PM.
    Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

  13. #6963
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan S. View Post
    I'm surprised at the lack of publicity, at least so far.
    I somehow bumped into this company, while I was in the process of acquiring my pivot jig. Pretty sure Romacker GmbH ("roXbo") are Rossi/Look new style OEM jig supplier, maybe others too. I remember texting my buddy about it and discussing they need to add more plates. Searched my history - December 2020. So this has been around for at least four years. I guess if they add plates for pivot, shift, duke pt, atks and such, it can get some traction.

  14. #6964
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    we use that at the shop I work at for Dynafit mounts
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  15. #6965
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    Ah, interesting -- I had noticed from another website that they won some sort of award back in 2020.
    And I learned from White Mtn Ski Co just now that indeed that is how Dynafit supplies its jigs.
    Expanding this into the DIY market with plates for other binding lines would be huge!
    Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

  16. #6966
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    If a Pivot plate became available, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

  17. #6967
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    Having a few of these Jigs in my shop that has very limited space, I would be so psyched if I could just order plates individually.

  18. #6968
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    I would still mount a tech boot by 1 toe screw to let the boot find its happy place
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  19. #6969
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    My kid’s feet grew enough that he needed the next size up for boots for this season. The new boots are just outside of the adjustment range of the pivots he has on his comp mogul skis.

    What’s the preferred way to remount the heel piece a cm back from the existing mount? Just measure back from each of the current holes and drill?

  20. #6970
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    Print a template measure a center line drill

  21. #6971
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    many good center tools and prints available
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  22. #6972
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailman View Post
    My kid’s feet grew enough that he needed the next size up for boots for this season. The new boots are just outside of the adjustment range of the pivots he has on his comp mogul skis.

    What’s the preferred way to remount the heel piece a cm back from the existing mount? Just measure back from each of the current holes and drill?
    What is the bsl of old boots vs new?
    Uno mas

  23. #6973
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    Quote Originally Posted by byates[emoji637
    ;[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]Print a template measure a center line drill
    Thanks. I have the template I used to mount them so can use that.


    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b;[emoji[emoji6[emoji640
    ]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]many good center tools and prints available
    Yeah, for sure. The marking gauge I use for centering and the optical punch are the best two tool investments I’ve made for mounting skis.

  24. #6974
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

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  25. #6975
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    Pivot party tonight. 3 mounts. Easy peasy. OG Lpro's like drilling into an I-beam, 4frnt like drilling into soft kindling. Kinda frightening. But hey

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    Last edited by byates1; 11-11-2024 at 09:20 AM.

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