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  1. #5851
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    Damn! Thats a good price. Is that the same as the crest?

    Quote Originally Posted by MottN View Post
    ATK does have a longer travel version of the crest that is 50mm travel. I think its the crest 10 rental and some of the rebrands have this version also...Kastle, Masjesty, maybe others. I have a pair of the kastle version of these I bought from this place last spring, the exchange rate makes buying from Europe cheap right now.
    https://www.oliunid.com/kastle-tour-...alpinismo.html

    Of course you will end up with one ~1.5cm forward and the other back.

  2. #5852
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    Thanks, that would be awesome if same width.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed el Loco View Post
    I think DF toes are the same width. You could do inserts for the toes and just move them up one set of holes. With the heel adjustment might get you the 60ish mm you need.

  3. #5853
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Damn! Thats a good price. Is that the same as the crest?
    Its the C-raider toe and an elongated version of the crest heel.

  4. #5854
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    Quote Originally Posted by old mexico View Post
    Anyone have a pivot jig (slc) or know where to get a paper template. I donít really trust myself using a template but I need a few skis remounted due to a boot change


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  5. #5855
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    Quote Originally Posted by MottN View Post
    Its the C-raider toe and an elongated version of the crest heel.
    That is sweet! Think it may just do the trick. Thank you!

  6. #5856
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    In case this hasn't already been shared here: https://github.com/tomahawkins/binding-templates

    Every folder contains multiple .svg image files for various BSL along with a Haskell file. I don't know what a Haskell file is, but .svg files are just like a PDF. Open, print, tape, drill, and fuck up your own skis.

    If you want to download the files to save locally: click Code > Download Zip.

  7. #5857
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    ... and I used one of those templates to do a thing:

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    This will be my first round with Pivots. I'm stoked on the M-Free 108 based on what I've read.

  8. #5858
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    getting ready to mount some skis. two questions.

    are the new Solly Strive replacing STH2s?
    anyone know if the mounting pattern is the same as STH2s?

    I'm not opposed to trying them, but not if I need to trail/error my own template to do so. I'll just mount Attacks.

    Gracias.

  9. #5859
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcdawg View Post
    Trying to figure out how my wife and son can share the same set of touring skis with different bsl's of 264 and 297. I have a set of DF's with adjustable range of 25mm. ATK Crests only have 20mm adjustability. Aside from inserts, are there any other options?
    Price on these has been bouncing around a bit--were $400 last week--but Evo has Helio 350 demos on sale.

    https://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-to...ings-2022-.jpg

    Picture is wrong (shows the normal helio 350), but from the description/reviews it is the demo version. Believe it is the same as the ATK RENT ME 12: https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo...rent-me-12-en/ which is a raider 12 heel on a longer track plus a different toepiece on a 30mm track with tool-free adjustment.

    I was considering them as they make hole conflicts disappear--weigh 450g so not insane.

  10. #5860
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    getting ready to mount some skis. two questions.

    are the new Solly Strive replacing STH2s?
    anyone know if the mounting pattern is the same as STH2s?

    I'm not opposed to trying them, but not if I need to trail/error my own template to do so. I'll just mount Attacks.

    Gracias.
    There is a strive-specific thread around here somewhere that should answer this better , but my somewhat-informed understanding is that: strive is replacing sth2 13, but the sth2 16 is going to survive for a bit. I think mount pattern differs between strive 14 and 16, at least in the heels. 16 heel looks like sth2/warden; 14 heel looks new. Not sure about the toe mounting pattern, but I have some vague recollection that it shares some of the same holes as the shift. I may be off base there though


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  11. #5861
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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesline View Post
    Price on these has been bouncing around a bit--were $400 last week--but Evo has Helio 350 demos on sale.

    https://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-to...ings-2022-.jpg

    Picture is wrong (shows the normal helio 350), but from the description/reviews it is the demo version. Believe it is the same as the ATK RENT ME 12: https://www.atkbindings.com/en/prodo...rent-me-12-en/ which is a raider 12 heel on a longer track plus a different toepiece on a 30mm track with tool-free adjustment.

    I was considering them as they make hole conflicts disappear--weigh 450g so not insane.
    Thanks! Ended up going for the Kastle's posted above (320g) for less than $300 shipped.

  12. #5862
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    Pivots are da bomb.
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  13. #5863
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    Quote Originally Posted by juanrogera View Post
    In case this hasn't already been shared here: https://github.com/tomahawkins/binding-templates

    Every folder contains multiple .svg image files for various BSL along with a Haskell file. I don't know what a Haskell file is, but .svg files are just like a PDF. Open, print, tape, drill, and fuck up your own skis.

    If you want to download the files to save locally: click Code > Download Zip.
    Interesting, and good work. Anyone else have experience with these templates before I give em a shot?

  14. #5864
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    everyone knows they can check template accuracy by putting the actual fucking binding on top of the paper to make sure the holes are in the right spot ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    everyone knows they can check template accuracy by putting the actual fucking binding on top of the paper to make sure the holes are in the right spot ?
    Yes, but that’s not going to tell you if your boot is going to end up centered correctly on the ski, or if the binding heel is going to be centered in it’s range of travel when forward pressure is set correctly.

  16. #5866
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    No, the boot has a mark and the ski has a mark so you should check using a T square

    I think this is something really simple you could check before drilling all the holes and wondering WTF you did ?

    this is not rocket biology, it is just good layout and carpenters do this everyday
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  17. #5867
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    everyone knows they can check template accuracy by putting the actual fucking binding on top of the paper to make sure the holes are in the right spot ?
    Yes, but it's cold in my garage, I'm lazy, and it's a lot easier to type inside where it's warm.

  19. #5869
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    Done and dusted.

    192 UL GPOs ó with 8cm of the tails cut off by @calibrit

    3rd Mount and found space for radical 2.0s - 1.5 cm behind the line.

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    Glad to see these still kicking. Was a fun project.

  20. #5870
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    [ATTACH]436640[/ATTACH

    Mount 5 with the jig. Paid it off.
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  21. #5871
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brasso View Post
    Interesting, and good work. Anyone else have experience with these templates before I give em a shot?
    Iíve used the Pivot and Attack templates and theyíve been accurate and easy to use. The specific bsl for each file removes one additional potential for error.

    I would note that on the Pivots, my first mount was fine, but the heel wasnít quite in the middle of the adjustment range. I guess that could be either the template or the boot measuring slightly different than the bsl stated on the boot. For my second mount, I added 2mm to the stated bsl and I was right in the middle of the adjustment range.

  22. #5872
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailman View Post
    Iíve used the Pivot and Attack templates and theyíve been accurate and easy to use. The specific bsl for each file removes one additional potential for error.

    I would note that on the Pivots, my first mount was fine, but the heel wasnít quite in the middle of the adjustment range. I guess that could be either the template or the boot measuring slightly different than the bsl stated on the boot. For my second mount, I added 2mm to the stated bsl and I was right in the middle of the adjustment range.
    Same experience here. Recommend test mount on a piece of wood first. Or template confirmation via overlay on an already drilled ski for inserts etc...

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  23. #5873
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mailman View Post
    Iíve used the Pivot and Attack templates and theyíve been accurate and easy to use. The specific bsl for each file removes one additional potential for error.

    I would note that on the Pivots, my first mount was fine, but the heel wasnít quite in the middle of the adjustment range. I guess that could be either the template or the boot measuring slightly different than the bsl stated on the boot. For my second mount, I added 2mm to the stated bsl and I was right in the middle of the adjustment range.
    Definitely measure your actual BSL vs what may be marked on the boots and test mount. There could easily be 5mm or more difference between the two.

    Make sure to understand the adjustment for Pivots and any binding. Then tweak mount locations accordingly for your purposes. If you start with test mounting the toes relative to BSC, you can place the boot and mess around with the heel Location and different adjustment locations.

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  24. #5874
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    Does anyone else actually mark the template at the actual boot size number or am I the only one? (Finding that 0.5mm moment on each sheet that marks the spot).

    Kinda wondered if people just pick the nearest 5mm or 10mm hash mark & figure the binding span of tolerance covers the rest?

    Or is there some other range condition people shoot for?
    Most coverage for boots owned (BSLís in same zone)? Conventional BSLís for a given boot size?

  25. #5875
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
    G3 ION remount due to new Scarpa BSL being shorter by 9mm for 27 mondo from Maestrale to 4-Quattros. The heel adjustment was maxed out so shifted the heels forward 15mm. BSC is 5mm forward.

    The new G3 ION binding layout tool is spot on:

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