PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

[XXX-er]

Yeah, I talking about storage for people who aren't in a shop environment that use their epoxy intermittently.
Air, temperature differential and light will kill your epoxy. Properly stored, the epoxy should last years!

I left some 2 part in an unheated room last week and it wouldnt come out of the bottle so I put it on top of a baseboard heater and it was good to go pretty quick,

i was using it to rebuild a worn/fucked up door latch striker plate area with small pieces of wood its below freezing out side so its taken a few days for the epoxy to cure

[tuco]

I left some 2 part in an unheated room last week and it wouldnt come out of the bottle so I put it on top of a baseboard heater and it was good to go pretty quick,

i was using it to rebuild a worn/fucked up door latch striker plate area with small pieces of wood its below freezing out side so its taken a few days for the epoxy to cure

Should be stored @ room temps ~70°F(21°C). By temperature differential I mean if I was to store it in the garage here where it's over 100f in summer and can get to 0 temps in winter.
Heat gunnit!

[XXX-er]

I have learned to read labels to see if a product can handle being frozen to -20 or -30 so I take shit in from the shed before we get into the freezing temps, ferinstance wax based chain lube doesnt like being frozen but you can water it down with ... water

Narthern BC, I don't remember the last time it was 100F eh

[stealurface831]

just to confirm, vipec and tecton mounting patterns are the exact same, right?

[Dee Hubbs]

I finally mounted these fast boys up. These were a PSA closeout last winter and they showed up just as COVID shut down the resorts. I think they cost less than $65 after shipping.
Elan Ripstick FIS GS SkiCross 33.5m radius! I think the Green Pivot 18s look really good on these.


The solid race plate was just big enough to mount the short P18 pattern. Thats my clear plexiglass "jig" sitting on top of the race plate, thats why the holes look so big. This was before I taped, measured, centered and clamped the plexiglass jig.



I was glad to use up some of my Pivot skinny brake base plate and spare parts on these.




I will report back on how these ski, or maybe even a video of me discussing my action with Safety Patrol.

[kid-kapow]

just to confirm, vipec and tecton mounting patterns are the exact same, right?

yes.

[stealurface831]

was a consensus ever come to on the best method to find the centerline?

[waxloaf]

was a consensus ever come to on the best method to find the centerline?

There are a dozen different methods in the thread; all work fine and none are difficult. Just pick one.


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[El Chupacabra]

I finally mounted these fast boys up. These were a PSA closeout last winter and they showed up just as COVID shut down the resorts. I think they cost less than $65 after shipping.
Elan Ripstick FIS GS SkiCross 33.5m radius! I think the Green Pivot 18s look really good on these.


The solid race plate was just big enough to mount the short P18 pattern. Thats my clear plexiglass "jig" sitting on top of the race plate, thats why the holes look so big. This was before I taped, measured, centered and clamped the plexiglass jig.



I was glad to use up some of my Pivot skinny brake base plate and spare parts on these.




I will report back on how these ski, or maybe even a video of me discussing my action with Safety Patrol.

I bought those same skis on clearance, but haven't mounted them yet. Was just looking at them - what did you pick for the center line? I didn't see any mark on the skis.

[Dee Hubbs]

I bought those same skis on clearance, but haven't mounted them yet. Was just looking at them - what did you pick for the center line? I didn't see any mark on the skis.

There are no marks on the ski, sidewall, or the plate.
So with all skis long and fast (and race plates) I enlist the help of ZomblibulaX.
His wisdom told me that the Elan 191 FIS is boot center 81cm from tail, and the Elan 191 SX is the same 81cm.
I’ll report back soon on the performance!

[El Chupacabra]

Thanks for the info!

[Cocximus]

Wow, laser printers print on parchment paper.

I took a template, laid the two pages on top of eachother in illustrator, then I cut a 8.5x20" piece of parchment paper and just printed it. Perfect aliment and see through paper when trying to avoid old holes.

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[johnnyg82]

Wow, laser printers print on parchment paper.

I took a template, laid the two pages on top of eachother in illustrator, then I cut a 8.5x20" piece of parchment paper and just printed it. Perfect aliment and see through paper when trying to avoid old holes.

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[LC]

Another successful session of mounting my own fucking skis. It's now a yearly ritual for me and I love it, even looking forward to it as part of the season start.

You just made me realise that last winter was my first in 15 years when I hadn't mounted any skis.

Made up for it yesterday with a toe remount on a friend's old touring setup and mounting my own fucking skis (Agent 3.0s with heel-shimmed Alpinists):

[Spyderjon]

This pic is screwing with my OCD......



.......that blue spanner is facing the wrong way!!

[Dee Hubbs]

Made up for it yesterday with a toe remount on a friend's old touring setup and mounting my own fucking skis (Agent 3.0s with heel-shimmed Alpinists):

The Alpinist have one of the flattest deltas (+2mm) for a pin binding, was he trying to achieve an old school Dynafit high heel feel? Just curious why the heel shim?

[justo8484]

Finally mounted up a pair of Jeffrey 108s I picked up end of last season when covid shut down the ski world. I have an old pivot jig that doesn't open up wide enough, so couldn't use that. Luckily, my PX jig does open wide enough, so I used that for the toe holes and finding width-center of the ski.



That made it pretty straightforward to get the paper template lined up well enough for the heel holes.



Used a freestanding drill press for the heel holes to make sure they were vertical.



The first ski took a little while, as this is the first mount I've done in my new place, and my workshop is far from being set up and organized so I was digging around in boxes for tools and whatnot. Second ski was super quick and easy.

[LC]

The Alpinist have one of the flattest deltas (+2mm) for a pin binding, was he trying to achieve an old school Dynafit high heel feel? Just curious why the heel shim?

The AlpInist setup in the photo is mine. And yes, I mounted with the shim to give them more delta/ramp. A test mount without shims confirmed that they are very flat. Here's what I measured if you're interested - I was measuring from the topsheet to arbitrary points marked on one of my boots so the absolute numbers aren't relevant just the comparison between them:

916: +3mm
Plum Guide with 7.5mm toe shim: +2.5mm
Kingpin: +4mm
Alpinist: -5.25mm

So shimming the Alpinist heel 7.25 to 11.25mm would have put its delta in the range of my other bindings. That's a huge shim and I was limited by the longest screws I had to hand so I used a 5.5mm shim in the end which makes their delta 0.25mm by my method of measuring, so still a few mm flatter than my other setups but much closer to them than stock. I haven't skied the Alpinist yet, in any configuration, so can't make any comments about how the shims affect feel but I've seen a few people mention shimming the heels and didn't like the sound of such a difference in delta compared to my other skis so shimmed them from the get-go. I made the shim long enough to support the brake pad and that acts as a heel support as you can see below, something that made a big difference to how my Plums felt when I added a DIY heel block and a friend who added brakes to his unshimmed Alpinists says the same - much less vague feeling at the heel.

[stealurface831]

Finally getting around to getting some binders on these bent chets. Hopefully I don’t fuck this up like last time...


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[Cocximus]

Finally mounted up a pair of Jeffrey 108s I picked up end of last season when covid shut down the ski world. I have an old pivot jig that doesn't open up wide enough, so couldn't use that. Luckily, my PX jig does open wide enough, so I used that for the toe holes and finding width-center of the ski.



That made it pretty straightforward to get the paper template lined up well enough for the heel holes.



Used a freestanding drill press for the heel holes to make sure they were vertical.



The first ski took a little while, as this is the first mount I've done in my new place, and my workshop is far from being set up and organized so I was digging around in boxes for tools and whatnot. Second ski was super quick and easy.

That's the cheap Amazon press, no? How is it?

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[skifishbum]

I ain't decided to pull the trigger on the drill yet
I like to think I can stay in em
But i know I can ski outta em too

[stealurface831]

Successfully did not fuck up...yet. I’ll get to the other tomorrow.


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[stealurface831]

I ain't decided to pull the trigger on the drill yet
I like to think I can stay in em
But i know I can ski outta em too

shitttt sfb, i would never dare. are those trofeos?

[Dee Hubbs]

916: +3mm
Plum Guide with 7.5mm toe shim: +2.5mm
Kingpin: +4mm
Alpinist: -5.25mm

So shimming the Alpinist heel 7.25 to 11.25mm would have put its delta in the range of my other bindings. That's a huge shim and I was limited by the longest screws I had to hand so I used a 5.5mm shim in the end which makes their delta 0.25mm by my method of measuring, so still a few mm flatter than my other setups but much closer to them than stock. I haven't skied the Alpinist yet, in any configuration, so can't make any comments about how the shims affect feel but I've seen a few people mention shimming the heels and didn't like the sound of such a difference in delta compared to my other skis so shimmed them from the get-go. I made the shim long enough to support the brake pad and that acts as a heel support as you can see below, something that made a big difference to how my Plums felt when I added a DIY heel block and a friend who added brakes to his unshimmed Alpinists says the same - much less vague feeling at the heel.

All the documents I read have the Marker Alpinist measured with the toes at 34mm and heels at 36mm for +2mm Delta? I'm just curious how you got to, and measured -5.25?
This is why I was confused by the shimming off the heel.

[justo8484]

That's the cheap Amazon press, no? How is it?

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I got it from home depot actually, but yeah it's probably on amazon too. It was only like $30 or something. Honestly bought it pretty specifically just for mounting skis when I can't use a jig, and I don't have the space nor did I wanna drop the cash for a proper drill press. It seemed to work well enough for this pair. I gotta order up some quiver killer inserts to put in my old Jeffrey 110s to do a pivot/CAST 1.0 setup, so I think it'll come in handy for that to keep the QK step bit from wandering in the old holes. I'll share that adventure whenever I get around to ordering the hardware and mounting em up.