PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

[jackattack]

Mounted up some x88's for Kopi_red. Sick skis. Attachment 263483

These skis rip! Kopi will dig them.

[Kopi_Red]

Mounted up some x88's for Kopi_red. Sick skis. Attachment 263483

These skis rip! Kopi will dig them.

I'm excited to get these bad boys out on the snow!

It's been years since I had a sub 90 ski in the quiver. Dare I say, my quiver may be complete???

[reckless toboggan]

I'm excited to get these bad boys out on the snow!

It's been years since I had a sub 90 ski in the quiver. Dare I say, my quiver may be complete???

Those look like killers.

If I skied anything smaller than a 108 these days, they'd be so quick edge to edge that I'd be 4 turns ahead of where I actually was.

[caulfield]

I have a pair of Blizzards with older non EPF Barons I'd like to remount with squires. Can I reuse the the Baron holes and plug the extra hole I understand the Baron has over the Royal alpine binders? Can I swap the brakes from Barons to the Squires?

Yes I know Squires are 1. Low Din and 2. Markers but they work for me.

Definitely not. Check out Knut's templates for those bindings. Depending on BSL and how picky you are about mount point, you might be able to re-use one pair of toe holes, but heel hole width is different and fore-aft spacing of the toe holes is different. Good news is, brakes will swap.

[Kopi_Red]

Those look like killers.

If I skied anything smaller than a 108 these days, they'd be so quick edge to edge that I'd be 4 turns ahead of where I actually was.

I know what you mean. My DDs the last couple of years were Dynastar Pro Riders (lp105) and before that GPOs. Last year I rode a buddy's Monster 88s and the narrow waist combined with the short turn radius took some getting used to. They were so damn quick. After that I knew I needed to get me some of that action.

[aguo5520]

Mounted my own fucking moment skis. Thanks to all in this thread that took the time to answer questions I had!




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[SupreChicken]

Nice setup

[reckless toboggan]

Mounted my own fucking moment skis. Thanks to all in this thread that took the time to answer questions I had!

. Well those are ruined.

Better send them to me.

[t-the-east]

Mounted my own fucking moment skis. Thanks to all in this thread that took the time to answer questions I had!




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That work bench seems a bit suspect....

[Timberridge]

That work bench seems a bit suspect....

Plus the drill looks staged.

Yeah I'm calling BS on this claimed self mount.

[pyromaniacman129]

Plus the drill looks staged.

Yeah I'm calling BS on this claimed self mount.

There's no battery in it...?

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[Timberridge]

If we could zoom in to the underfoot area, I'm certain we'd find the remnants of a ski shop sticker.

[aguo5520]

If we could zoom in to the underfoot area, I'm certain we'd find the remnants of a ski shop sticker.

Wow, I must have done a great job mounting them.


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[margotron]

I did my GF's new pair of skis today w/ standard pozi screws. I forgot how pain-free it can be. My usual mounts involve inserts, dodging old holes/plugging old holes with wood, endless tapping. From printing template to done it was under an hour, probably closer to 30.

[reckless toboggan]

My usual mounts involve inserts, dodging old holes/plugging old holes with wood, endless tapping.

That poor woman!

[margotron]

That poor woman!

dying. lol.

[nickbokhoven]

Big thank you to all that have contributed. First time with inserts and all good. A couple of pictures for my process on a pair of Quixote from GS.

Using calipers from the bottom side with a centering ruler taped to a larger scraper.

Using a square off the edge and dimple to mark center line. Back check the line with straight tape pull from top.

Mark CL three times and connect marks to show CL down middle of ski

I swear by templates printed on transparency film. Super easy to double check previous mounts.

Using sharp awl to center punch

Borrowed a drill press since it was inserts and would not do it another way. The Binding Freedom bit needs a stop collar or use the drill press.

I used my drill bit guide taping

Cleaned the inserts with a bit of acetone. Nice thing is the acetone evaporates if you leave them overnight.

All inserts in with epoxy

Finished up with the rest of family quiver with a set of FKS 18. Eager to test at Whitewater next week and maybe Baldface. Protests are going on the heli for sure.



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[jackattack]

Clean work

Dig the transparency hack.

[gwat]

Ive. I like ike the calipers with centering ruler trick.

[nickbokhoven]

I couldn't find the exact template but Slidewright has one here - http://www.slidewright.com/Bindings/skicenter.pdf

[Shredly von Whiplash]

yup - prob not a great called a new metal ski like this first try - but after some futzing without the right bit....got
her done. Get the right bit.... and tap. Still -own skis f'ing mounted.

[beasttowest]

Be bold! I don't ski them with a regular mount. I just do a pilot hole then immediately follow up with the insert do bit.

Re screws...look at your binding then go to the store and look at the m5 machine screw head types. I am positive they have the right ones. There's no magic here: we are screwing metal into wood. Don't be afraid to use a lock-washer either!

Margotron- thanks for all your posts. Spent hours combing through this treasure trove of a thread this weekend and your posts have been awesome. Definitely going to grab a die at ACE today.

That said, I’m an idiot jong and pretty lost/overwhelmed.

If I have my own skis already mounted for my BSL with Pivot 12s and 14s, and I want to install inserts in them, should I:
1) remove screws (have BF stuff handy), check threads to make sure they’re good, and then install inserts with GFlex? Or:
2) remove screws, plug with dowels and GFlex, and start from scratch in a day or two?

[Toddball]

Margotron- thanks for all your posts. Spent hours combing through this treasure trove of a thread this weekend and your posts have been awesome. Definitely going to grab a die at ACE today.

That said, I’m an idiot jong and pretty lost/overwhelmed.

If I have my own skis already mounted for my BSL with Pivot 12s and 14s, and I want to install inserts in them, should I:
1) remove screws (have BF stuff handy), check threads to make sure they’re good, and then install inserts with GFlex? Or:
2) remove screws, plug with dowels and GFlex, and start from scratch in a day or two?

3) Remove screws (have BF stuff handy), redrill holes with BF bit, tap with BF tap, drop of GFlex in each hole, inserts in, loosely attach bindings with machine screws.

This last step will make sure the inserts are properly aligned while the epoxy cures. You might even want to turn the skis upside down (bases up) while the epoxy cures to make it flows towards the topsheet, to better seal against water intrusion.

Inserts do not have the same outer diameter or thread as the binding screws that are currently in your skis, so it doesn't matter if the binding screw holes in your ski still have good threads. The BF bit will drill these out.

[beasttowest]

3) Remove screws (have BF stuff handy), redrill holes with BF bit, tap with BF tap, drop of GFlex in each hole, inserts in, loosely attach bindings with machine screws.

This last step will make sure the inserts are properly aligned while the epoxy cures. You might even want to turn the skis upside down (bases up) while the epoxy cures to make it flows towards the topsheet, to better seal against water intrusion.

Inserts do not have the same outer diameter or thread as the binding screws that are currently in your skis, so it doesn't matter if the binding screw holes in your ski still have good threads. The BF bit will drill these out.

Thanks for setting me straight, toddball. You mention loosely attaching bindings. Obviously need to do that to ensure everything’s working properly. But then shouldn’t I take them off prior to flipping upside & letting the epoxy cure?

[Toddball]

Thanks for setting me straight, toddball. You mention loosely attaching bindings. Obviously need to do that to ensure everything’s working properly. But then shouldn’t I take them off prior to flipping upside & letting the epoxy cure?

No, leave the bindings on there. The idea here is for the binding to hold all the screws/inserts at the proper angle in the threads. If your insert can wobble a bit in the ski, and you let the epoxy cure without the binding screwed in, you might end up with an insert out of alignment. No way to correct this once the epoxy is cured.

I'm sure lots of people don't bother with this step. If you are sure you drill your holes dead straight and tap perfectly, you shouldn't need to do it. But if you bung up the threads a bit while tapping, or drill a hole slightly crooked, or even just have soft core material (looking at you Dynafit), this step ensures that when you take a binding off the ski and put it back on, you'll be able to get all the machine screws in. The first insert mount I did was two sets at once in the same pair of skis, and the set that didn't cure with a binding in it was a bit messed up.

Edit: the main disadvantage to leaving the bindings on while the epoxy cures is the binding might end up epoxied to the topsheet. This usually isn't a big deal; you should be able to pry the binding off after taking the screws out without damaging the ski. What is really bad is if you get epoxy on the insert-machine screw thread interface; when you try to take out the screw you end up taking out the insert, too. Don't use too much epoxy!