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  1. #5701
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    Tips on driving screws in with a drill?

    Is low speed better? Keep plenty of downward pressure, and set the torque so that you can finish the screw by hand?

    Regardless I'll practice on some old skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken feathers View Post
    Tips on driving screws in with a drill?

    Is low speed better? Keep plenty of downward pressure, and set the torque so that you can finish the screw by hand?

    Regardless I'll practice on some old skis.
    Not a drill, I sometimes use an impact driver to get the screw ~75% to ~85% in, but I always do the last bit by hand to avoid spinners.

    Edit: and it just seems better to hand tighten to detect and avoid problems.

  3. #5703
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken feathers View Post
    Tips on driving screws in with a drill?

    Is low speed better? Keep plenty of downward pressure, and set the torque so that you can finish the screw by hand?

    Regardless I'll practice on some old skis.

    Id never use a power tool to put a screw into a ski. It may take a few minutes longer by hand but the chances of fucking something up have been reduced to zero.

  4. #5704
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    Yup, unless you want spinners I’d do it by hand. The screws aren’t long - not like it takes a lot of time to do it by hand

  5. #5705
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    I just set the torque reasonably low and do the first 2/3rds by hand. At least on alpine skis -- lightweight touring I do by hand cause i'm nervous. I haven't had a spinner because of it. YMMV. Shops pretty much all start with a torqued drill.

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    well the shop guy does it all day and he knows when to stop, i'm betting if he had to drive every screw by hand there would be some pretty fine blisters before the day is out

    BTW Gorilla glue will not blow your ski up when it expands, in fact DPS used to specify gorilla glue to mount their full carbon skis as opposed to wood glue, I glued pieces of dowel into some old holes which were not a tight enough fit and in the morning all the dowels had all been spit out on top of the ski, pretty funny
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    I do em by hand, just because I know how it should feel and I don't want to practice with the impact on my own gear. I also only do a couple pairs every season.

    A few years ago mom gave me this goofy t-handle racheting bit driver for Christmas. It's one of those tools that you find near the register at ace hardware--definitely not Gunder approved--a classic mom gift. I thought I'd never use it at the time, but now the pz#3 basically lives in it, and it's perfect for ski chores, including DIN + forward pressure adjustment.

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    I strip threads by hand. Gotta be careful not to overnighten

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  9. #5709
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    I always use an impact. M12 Milwaukee set on level 1. Tighten 2/3 or a little more until I get close. Then finish by hand. Always with a posidrive.

    XXXer- totally hear ya. I could actually see that being helpful on carbon. The foaming working into voids that tear when drilling. But next time I’ll take pictures. There are definitely some skis that don’t like it. Had it happen to a couple pairs in a row. Nothing a quick screw removal and clamping didn’t fix but it was close.

  10. #5710
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken feathers View Post
    Tips on driving screws in with a drill?

    Is low speed better? Keep plenty of downward pressure, and set the torque so that you can finish the screw by hand?

    Regardless I'll practice on some old skis.
    By hand, to German torque spec
    "Poop is funny" - Frank Reynolds

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  11. #5711
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    I’m a klutz with a drill press. I just clamp down a little DIY drill guide plate, drill, tap, then use my favorite mounting and torquing tools…




  12. #5712
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicken feathers View Post
    Tips on driving screws in with a drill?

    Is low speed better? Keep plenty of downward pressure, and set the torque so that you can finish the screw by hand?

    Regardless I'll practice on some old skis.
    I know people have been hesitant about using power tools, but I'm not sure what's wrong with just brapping them in with a regular drill set on low RPMs and the slipper clutch set to a reasonable value...

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    shit you don’t even need to drill holes just brapp in the screws
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

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    Pluggin holes so i can rock a retro rig this yeahaw!

    Bonus beer to who ever can guess the binding patterns.
    watch out for snakes

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    BOOM

    Nice work

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB View Post
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    Pluggin holes so i can rock a retro rig this yeahaw!

    Bonus beer to who ever can guess the binding patterns.
    That's a tough one. Assuming tip to the right... Assuming Nordic/XCD because of tall sidewall and capped construction... Kind looks like a naxo + something else??

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    Sort of close, there is a mix of nordic ish and something else going on.

    Yes, ski tip is to the right.

    Nuther hint, its front is named for soft and shear strip of fabric but the rear is named for a locashun in the Alps.
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    This is what was on them.

    This is what will be going on.

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    watch out for snakes

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    LaceGranParadisoNationalPark

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    Wow, that is unique. Did you put that together, and if so, how did you use them... And... Why?!

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    Just finished mounting up these bad boys. Had a base dimple due to a drill bit collar slipping.. but since these are my powder tools they'll be fine.

    Thanks to Skuff for the minty fresh Forza 1.0s!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookieman View Post
    Just finished mounting up these bad boys. Had a base dimple due to a drill bit collar slipping.. but since these are my powder tools they'll be fine.

    Thanks to Skuff for the minty fresh Forza 1.0s!

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    Nice rig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halliday View Post
    Nice rig.
    Thanks! I took your advice of using no power tools when driving the screws, and ended up without any spinners

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    So the rig was a Voile CRB up front, I prefered the 3pin version, and a Silvretta SL heel unit out back. The Silvretta SL toe piece was garbage but the heel is a scaled down version of the bomber 404.

    I skied it for many years back when i was telewacking for the ease of touring but wanted the opshun of a heel lock for the gnar. Worked great together. Fast forward and I am either on AT or DH gear so not so much into the hybrdfrankenwanking mode. My closest ski buds had this rig also. Used the T2 boots most of the time. Had the original purple terminators to start out.
    watch out for snakes

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    Atomic super light tour cap skis actually made by Hagan back in the day.
    watch out for snakes

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