Page 226 of 235 FirstFirst ... 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 ... LastLast
Results 5,626 to 5,650 of 5868
  1. #5626
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Somewhere else
    Posts
    5,171
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    I would see if tail to ski center mark is the same on both skis, I would usually go with what the mfger suggests is ski center unless i read something very much to the contrary
    Going to have to disagree on that one... I've seen the true centre of a ski mis-marked by 2 or 3cm. That's a lot.
    Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season

  2. #5627
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Joisey
    Posts
    2,183
    Quote Originally Posted by EWG View Post
    Been there, done that, only with metal posts on stairs so angled holes.

    Anyway, vibes. Good luck.
    Thanks. Most of the posts are drilled and installed. I have to put the railings on and then run the cableÖ about 1200í worth. </thread drift>
    Because rich has nothing to do with money.

  3. #5628
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    SW, CO
    Posts
    1,103
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Going to have to disagree on that one... I've seen the true centre of a ski mis-marked by 2 or 3cm. That's a lot.
    Agreed. Certain brands seemed to come with recommended marks all over the place. Some are better than others, but I've found incorrectly marked skis with nearly every brand. It's worth double checking no matter what.

  4. #5629
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    Danby
    Posts
    1,482
    Quote Originally Posted by djhutch View Post
    On which skis does the manufacturer put a ski center mark? I've mounted dozens of pairs and I have never come across a ski center mark.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...rum/amp/857434

    that third response is correct. Chord is the effective edge center of the ski. Where as true center is true tip to tail.

  5. #5630
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    29
    Whoa, I just started reading this thread one page ago. Someone (or lots of someones) must have discussed in the last two hundred plus pages the difference between a ski's true center versus the manufacturer's recommended mount line - which is where a ski company's thinks/suggests might be the best place to put your boot's center on that ski (the rec mount line is marked, scribed, indented, outdented, on the top sheet or sidewall). The only skis that these lines are in remotely the same place is on a dedicated park ski, see Newschoolers for more discussion on mounting boot center on ski center.

    If you don't understand the difference between where the manufacturer suggests your boot center should go and what a ski's true center is, you many want to rethink mounting your own fucking skis, or maybe just STFU (so very TGR of me to converse in this annoying, in yer face style). Or, please school me.

    I am still curious how ppl measure true center and their preferred mount point (i.e., where they like their boot center) vis a vis true center. Of the ten pairs of skis I still ski, the biggest difference are my Cho Oyu's where the rec mount line is -13.7 which would be considered very directional/old school by today's norms.

  6. #5631
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    27,989
    I guess you can wank off about what the line or arrow recomended for mounting by the mfger in the center-ish of almost very ski means and they are there if you choose not to be overly obtuse

    but i am only suggesting one should measure from tail to get wtf those lines mean or wherever you want to mount even from the tail or whatever measurement you want to use cuz sometimes they are printed un-even on the ski top

    and then you can wank off some more about your drill press
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  7. #5632
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    beaverhead county
    Posts
    4,186
    Quote Originally Posted by djhutch View Post
    I am still curious how ppl measure true center and their preferred mount point (i.e., where they like their boot center) vis a vis true center.
    IME, true center is irrelevant for all but the steeziest of park planks. And people ignore it accordingly. The only current freeride/alpine skis i can think of that reference true center are the renegades, ravens, and hojis, all of which use that wack ass formula.
    "somebody's gotta do it"

  8. #5633
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Location
    Danby
    Posts
    1,482
    Quote Originally Posted by djhutch View Post
    Whoa, I just started reading this thread one page ago. Someone (or lots of someones) must have discussed in the last two hundred plus pages the difference between a ski's true center versus the manufacturer's recommended mount line - which is where a ski company's thinks/suggests might be the best place to put your boot's center on that ski (the rec mount line is marked, scribed, indented, outdented, on the top sheet or sidewall). The only skis that these lines are in remotely the same place is on a dedicated park ski, see Newschoolers for more discussion on mounting boot center on ski center.

    If you don't understand the difference between where the manufacturer suggests your boot center should go and what a ski's true center is, you many want to rethink mounting your own fucking skis, or maybe just STFU (so very TGR of me to converse in this annoying, in yer face style). Or, please school me.

    I am still curious how ppl measure true center and their preferred mount point (i.e., where they like their boot center) vis a vis true center. Of the ten pairs of skis I still ski, the biggest difference are my Cho Oyu's where the rec mount line is -13.7 which would be considered very directional/old school by today's norms.
    you should do some more reading. It has been discussed also about 17,000,000 times on here about mount point. Mount point has to do with construction of the ski and the center of the turning radius of the ski. You can mount a traditional ski in the center but itís going to ski like shit or maybe not, or maybe you wonít notice because you ski like shit. I like a -7 - -9 mount point. This is all learned by mounting and moving and skiing tons of different skis. So your question has a million answers.

    and using a fucking drill press is ridiculous. Mounting a pair of skis should take 10 minutes unless you are fucking with inserts or some other bullshit. but this is a process that has been done by countless pot heads and drunks in the wee hours of the
    morning all over the world, so itís certainly not heart surgery, and itís definitely being over thought.

  9. #5634
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Park City
    Posts
    4,738
    ^^^^
    This


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
    I rip the groomed on tele gear

  10. #5635
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    8,138
    Pretty sure it was settled sometime back in the last century that the mfg mark was merely a nuanced suggestion, to be adjusted as per personal taste, so wanking is acceptable. Drill press wanking, however, seems uncalled for, unless you engrave your bindings with it.

  11. #5636
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Bull City
    Posts
    10,807
    If I worked n a shop I'd SOOOO prefer people like that, overthinkers, mount their own fucking skis. No matter how you do it with their best interests and procedure in mind, they will second guess your work over and over and will never be happy with the results no matter how fucking perfect it came out...
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

  12. #5637
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    2,109
    Anh tips for preventing drill bit drift in overlapping holes?

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

  13. #5638
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    27,989
    how ever where ever you mount skis mount them evenly altho the last ski i mounted I mounted mismatched and ski bro sez he can't tell the difference

    Cuz you could only mount in a few places Dynafit stokes with the inserts for tech bindings did not have any mark at ski center ( or wtf you wana call it ) which was an issue on a really short BSL so i checked another set of stokes and ski center ( or wtf you wana call it ) was at the " made in austria " screening so I went with that mark which i checked by measuring from tail
    Last edited by XXX-er; 07-19-2022 at 11:34 AM.
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  14. #5639
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Stumptown
    Posts
    9,162
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocximus View Post
    Anh tips for preventing drill bit drift in overlapping holes?

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
    Start with a small bit, then work your way up to a larger bit. Center punching doesn't always work, but really small bits do ok

  15. #5640
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Grandma's Basement
    Posts
    953
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocximus View Post
    Anh tips for preventing drill bit drift in overlapping holes?

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

    If I am overlapping holes I am usually using a hardwood plug + an insert to increase the surface area for the mount. That + the plastic jigs I use for mounting has not created any issues of drill bits walking during a drilling operation.
    "Poop is funny" - Frank Reynolds

    www.experiencedgear.net

  16. #5641
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    2,109
    Quote Originally Posted by rfconroy View Post
    If I am overlapping holes I am usually using a hardwood plug + an insert to increase the surface area for the mount. That + the plastic jigs I use for mounting has not created any issues of drill bits walking during a drilling operation.
    Oh yes you made those sweet jigs. I will have to figure out how to change yours to the vario 2.

    I guess another option would be to use a burr with a drill press. Those should not deflect.

    Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

  17. #5642
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Location
    Ellensburg
    Posts
    711
    I just finished mounting these bad bois.

    I went 1.5cm behind the line, or 3.5cm behind true center. Skiing switch more often is my aspirational goal this season.



    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

  18. #5643
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    27,989
    https://www.wildsnow.com/32546/how-m...ll-in-a-ski-2/

    a recent artical from wild snow where they talk to some ski mfgers, the coles notes version is all the mfgers say ... don't overlap holes
    Last edited by XXX-er; 09-26-2022 at 12:54 PM.
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  19. #5644
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    291
    Quote Originally Posted by waveshello View Post
    I just finished mounting these bad bois.

    I went 1.5cm behind the line, or 3.5cm behind true center. Skiing switch more often is my aspirational goal this season.



    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
    Awesome skis, youíll love them! So glad so many were able to grab these at such an insane deal. You got one of the last few pairs of 183cm.
    Most have been pretty good but check that the base is flat and that the edge bevels are uniform.

  20. #5645
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    2,190
    Quote Originally Posted by waveshello View Post
    I just finished mounting these bad bois.

    I went 1.5cm behind the line, or 3.5cm behind true center. Skiing switch more often is my aspirational goal this season.



    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
    Why wouldn't you mount on the line or fwd if you wanted ski switch more?

    Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

  21. #5646
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Location
    Ellensburg
    Posts
    711
    Quote Originally Posted by noslow View Post
    Awesome skis, youíll love them! So glad so many were able to grab these at such an insane deal. You got one of the last few pairs of 183cm.
    Most have been pretty good but check that the base is flat and that the edge bevels are uniform.
    Thank you for the PSA. I was on the hunt for something sub 100mm and I'm stoked on these! Looking forward to the next high pressure window.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher View Post
    Why wouldn't you mount on the line or fwd if you wanted ski switch more?

    Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
    Factory line is almost at center, so I'm only 3.5cm from center, and I'm definitely not NS enough to go forward of the line!

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
    Last edited by waveshello; 09-26-2022 at 06:37 PM.

  22. #5647
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Amherst, Mass.
    Posts
    4,606
    Anybody here want some dull 4.1mm drill bits?
    (Mix of 9.0mm and 9.5mm, and if you care about that distinction, then you probably aren't interested in dull bits.)
    Say, a buck each plus actual shipping cost 01002.
    I know, why would anyone want dull 4.1mm drill bits, since that size is used exclusively for drilling skis with metal, for which you want a sharp drill bit.
    But if anyone would ever want these, I figure those people would be reading this thread!
    And you could use a sharper/newer 3.5/3.6mm to drill the hole initially, then enlarge it with a dull 4.1mm, so not entirely worthless.
    (As for how I ended up with so many dull 4.1mm bits, after assembling my own setup years ago, I bought out a Sports Authority backshop with many extra drill bits, and each season I mount lots of Hagan skimo race skis with very strong internal mounting plates.)
    Mo' skimo here: NE Rando Race Series

  23. #5648
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Somewhere else
    Posts
    5,171
    Ok... Hole "overlap".

    If the spacing on my target binding is about 2 mm wider than the existing holes, has anyone reused those same holes? I would love to re use some holes but the spacing is not perfect.

    I know it's not ideal... Looking for first hand experience.

    Sent from my SM-A536W using Tapatalk
    Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season

  24. #5649
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    2,109
    I put new tyrolia demo bindings in old tyrolia demo holes. Dunno exactly what is the difference but hole to hole it was probably around 2. I'm sure there's plenty of botched installs that are o6f by more.

    Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk

  25. #5650
    Join Date
    Nov 2018
    Posts
    477
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Ok... Hole "overlap".

    If the spacing on my target binding is about 2 mm wider than the existing holes, has anyone reused those same holes? I would love to re use some holes but the spacing is not perfect.

    I know it's not ideal... Looking for first hand experience.

    Sent from my SM-A536W using Tapatalk
    I think Iíve done it with holes that are 1mm off, but maybe 2. In your situation Iíd do it - rather have the screws go in a little off kilter than put new holes in the ski.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •