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  1. #2826
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Yeah, fair. I guess I was asking because the rule of 4 threads seems to need more than 6mm on AB binding screw threads so it seemed like a bit of a contradiction.

    The only real issue is that the next size up 28mm screws are panhead instead of flathead, and don't have the taper on the screw head to fit in the tapered hole on the binding.

    I'd think tapered would be better here but is that not actually a big deal?

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    By 'tapered hole' you mean countersunk, I take it? A flat head would be the call unless you could shape the underside of a pan head. At that length, you'd have lots of choices for a bomber mount with M5 machine screws and Binding Freedom inserts.
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  2. #2827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
    By 'tapered hole' you mean countersunk, I take it? A flat head would be the call unless you could shape the underside of a pan head. At that length, you'd have lots of choices for a bomber mount with M5 machine screws and Binding Freedom inserts.
    Yeah... Countersunk... Not sure why I couldn't remember the term.

    Thanks.

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  3. #2828
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    So which is it - a 12AB binding screw or 5mm screws for inserts?

    If the latter, and BF doesn't have the size you need, then standard stainless machine screws are fine.

    If you're in between sizes, you can get the next size up and file it down. Make sure you can pass a nut over the thread after doing this (clean up the thread).

    BTW, machinist rule of thumb for machine screws is 3 threads for full strength. A bit of margin is a good idea in case the inserts are below the level of the top sheet.

    IIRC, BF & QK inserts are about 5.5 threads deep.

    ... Thom

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  4. #2829
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    First thread takes 30 something percent of the load, in theory. Not quite the same for soft materials like woods, but here's the classic chart from Fastenal:

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  5. #2830
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    Live gram!

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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    So which is it - a 12AB binding screw?
    Yup... 12AB.

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  7. #2832
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Yup... 12AB.

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    Doesn't Terry (@alpinord) stock screws you can use?

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  8. #2833
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Live gram!

    Holes wonky or just picture perspective?

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    Just perspective. And the heel holes are on a trapezoidal pattern, 34/28x28

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  10. #2835
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    Doesn't Terry (@alpinord) stock screws you can use?

    ... Thom

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    No... He replied above. Next size up are pan head instead of flathead that I need for countersunk binding holes.

    I could use inserts and get the correct length M5 fasteners.

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  11. #2836
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Just perspective. And the heel holes are on a trapezoidal pattern, 34/28x28

    Got it. Nice.

  12. #2837
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    These things fíkn rip! ~1993? Volkl built K2 Big Kahunas. Years since Iíve been on a ski like this. Was a bitch to drill through the metal. Thickest sheet Iíve ever muscled through in many many mounts. Mounted this am. Ripping by crack of noon.
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    Uno mas

  13. #2838
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doremite View Post
    These things fíkn rip! ~1993? Volkl built K2 Big Kahunas. Years since Iíve been on a ski like this. Was a bitch to drill through the metal. Thickest sheet Iíve ever muscled through in many many mounts. Mounted this am. Ripping by crack of noon.
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    Later me thinks, maybe 95/96ish?
    I have a pair that were test skis without graphics, insanely great skis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACH View Post
    Later me thinks, maybe 95/96ish?
    I have a pair that were test skis without graphics, insanely great skis.
    Shocked honestly. Explosivs but better due to slightly slimmer dems and softer tips?? Tails fully there to rocket you into the next turn but could also release them with ease. I did not expect what I experienced today. I am gitty to let em run again tomorrow.
    Uno mas

  15. #2840
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    Mounted a friend's Katanas last week after an allegedly reputable local shop mounted exactly how he told them not to mount and then proceeded to give him lip when he questioned them. Lesson learned by him: mount your own fucking skis. And fuck that shop.

    Then mounted my own fucking skis yesterday. Destroyed an Explosiv last week having owned them since 2012. The pain was very real but their replacements have me pretty stoked. Fresh snow incoming this week but will get out on these when we're back to shit/spring snow.

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  16. #2841
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    Yellow is the new red.

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    Mounted 5:30 Fri. morn. Skied @ 9am Fri. morn.
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  18. #2843
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    Those look awesome! but are you sitting on a mags lap?

  19. #2844
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    YeaNO Ski on the right is a Boneshaker. Ski on the left is some sort of 4frnt.

  20. #2845
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    What boots are you in?

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    I get lots of comments on the boots.
    24-25 years of tele left my Salomon Equipe 9.0 Racing's in pristine shape. I put my Scarpa spec intuition overlaps into them. Gonna ski em into the dirt. Have Krypton's awaiting Sallie failure. I actually mounted the SG's for the Krypton's. BSL's are within a couple mm's

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    Sick!
    Tuco it’s time you share a quiver pic with us. You have a lot of gems

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    I get lots of comments on the boots.
    24-25 years of tele left my Salomon Equipe 9.0 Racing's in pristine shape.
    Pics please!
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    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by reckless toboggan View Post
    Pics please!
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    I'll do some quiver pics later pretzel

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    Nice

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