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10-08-2020, 08:50 PM #3851
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10-08-2020, 09:41 PM #3852
Once GG is cured, it's waterproof. Water aids in the activation and curing process, it has nothing to do with somehow reactivating the glue once cured. I definitely would not use wood glue on reused holes if it were me. "Binding glue" is a special kind of wood glue that tends to stay more flexible (even though ski bindings wasn't the original intent I don't think, at least for Roo glue). Much less brittle than Titebond III. In other words "wood glue" is a very generic term.
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10-08-2020, 09:42 PM #3853Registered User
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Don’t know how I reposted.
Good deal...I have one last question. When resealing the the screws in the holes what do you guys recommend.. I have seen some folks say gorilla glue and I have see folks say don’t use ...
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10-08-2020, 09:47 PM #3854
Even if it was inadvertent that was amazing comedic timing.
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10-14-2020, 01:48 PM #3855Registered User
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Followed the advice in this thread and mounted my own fucking skis. I used about 70 Newtons of force for each screw. When they started spinning I added quickset cement into each hole, then used drywall screws with anchors to get a tight fit. Little bit of drag on the bottom but I think they will ski ok.
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10-14-2020, 01:59 PM #3856
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10-14-2020, 02:00 PM #3857Registered User
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10-14-2020, 02:17 PM #3858Registered User
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10-14-2020, 02:17 PM #3859
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10-14-2020, 02:27 PM #3860Registered User
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10-14-2020, 05:03 PM #3861
I'm just here for the fig newton stoke
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10-14-2020, 08:24 PM #3862
Just ski really really slow for the first season. After that you can open it up. It's all about safety, man.
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10-23-2020, 02:16 AM #3863one-track mind
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10-23-2020, 10:29 AM #3864Registered User
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for center line stick a 2ft long piece of tape down middle off ski and do your layout on that
I use a T-square to measure/mark just wider than center from ski edge, then measure mark the same distance from the other ski edge, split the difference between those 2 marks and that is center, do it at front of tape then do it at rear of tape use a straight edge to connect the marks and thats yer center line
if you don't have the bit drill a perpendicular hole thru a 2" piece of wood, leave how ever much bit you want sticking out the piece of wood and tighten the drill chuck, it functions as a drill guide but also if the drill bit slips you just don't drill far enough ... a completely idiot proof drill stop/ guideLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-23-2020, 10:40 AM #3865
Been using GG for years and have never had that happen, the expansion fills voids but it doesn't exert much pressure. About the only danger is using too much and having it flow/foam out of the hole and up into the underside of the binding, which could make it hard to remove a binding like a Marker Royal toe that needs to slide backwards to reveal the front screws. Never had this happen either, but I have had to pry the back of the toe up a bit (after removing the rear screws) to crack the seal so I could slide the toe back.
No need to wet the hole with water, there's enough moisture in the air to cure the glue even in a dry environment like SoCal. It cures to a clear flexible yellow where it can't expand (in the threaded hole) and a tough, slightly flexible foam where it has room to expand (voids under the binding). Just a little drop inside the top edge of the hole, and a little dab on the screw threads is all it takes.
It does take a good "crack" with the screwdriver (I use a small crescent wrench on the hex below the screwdriver handle for added torque) to break the GG seal when removing screws, but they come out perfectly clean and rust-free.
On a metal ski with tapped threads, I treat GG'd holes as if they're inserts and am comfortable remounting a binding unlimited times. Just make sure the screws you use later aren't longer than the ones you used for the first mount.
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10-23-2020, 10:55 AM #3866Registered User
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yeah I think the idea that Gorrila Glue will splode your skis is a horse shit urban myth which I hear often repeated in mount your own skis, I think one person said it and so everyone repeats it
When I used GG what i did was spit on the ski top and push the spit down in the holes with a handy nail, any time I've used GG there was no problem, i think that glue has long since hardened up in the bottle & now i'm in to slow set
a funny thing that did happen was I glued pieces of dowel into some old binding holes before the neext mount, the dowel was a bit undersize but I figured it would still take up the extra space and make for a waterproof seal
in the morning each piece of dowel was neatly spit out on top of the ski when the glue expanded,
note to self use bigger dowel and IME the BBQ skewers are perfectLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-23-2020, 11:11 AM #3867
Yeah I've used Gorilla Glue a bunch of times with no issues. It'll foam up and expand if there's room for it to, but I don't think it does so with nearly enough force to do anything when contained in the bottom of a hole.
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10-23-2020, 11:25 AM #3868
Been using G/Flex for dowels, since those are permanent.
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10-23-2020, 11:29 AM #3869
I've seen a thread regarding bases being bumped out when someone used GG but can't recall if it was TGR, maybe Earnyourturns.....
But maybe it was because screw length was too long, too much glue to escape when driving screw, or something else and they chalked it up to the GG. The stuff does expand like crazy when I've used it for home projects, but that was where it emerged around the screw head.
I dampen the hole/screw as per GG instructions when I need it to set as strong as possible (eg. anchoring concrete screws), but have done it without water too for other uses that I wasn't as concerned about.
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10-23-2020, 11:39 AM #3870
GG and epoxy have a pretty high viscosity, so if you add it to the hole and then drive in the screws with a power driver, you could easily force air or gel into the ski somewhere you don't want it. Use a screwdriver by hand and tighten each screw until you feel some pneumatic/hydraulic resistance, and then go to the next screw. When you come back to each screw that was resisting, the pressure will have relieved past the threads and you can tighten it some more. It can take several laps around the pattern to fully tighten the screws, but this avoids high-pressure injection of glue or trapped air.
Last edited by 1000-oaks; 10-24-2020 at 09:15 AM.
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10-23-2020, 12:01 PM #3871Registered User
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any liquid doesn't compress so you could probably do something like that with wood glue or chicken soup
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-23-2020, 12:12 PM #3872
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10-23-2020, 09:23 PM #3873
I'm looking to mount some Tyrolia Attack 13 DEMO bindings.
Missing a few screws and can't find a tech doc online that shows the specs for the screws, other than the full screw pack from Tyrolia.
So I'm trying to determine the correct screw size for the forward mounting holes in the heel piece for 8mm of insertion depth. I measured and my estimate is a 15mm length screw, but am curious if anyone knows for certain? If I install 15mm screws and they should have been 16mm, will my skis explode?
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10-23-2020, 10:46 PM #3874
Couple pair just sold in GS, maybe check with those buyers and have them measure before they mount. But they will not explode.
My centerline tip is using a clear protractor like these, the transparency helps me figure out where the edge is and not measure off the sidewall or topsheet and the protractor part helps me keep the ruler perpendicular to the ski. Either match the overhang on either side and mark the 3" point or start from the 0 and practice your fractions.
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10-24-2020, 06:34 AM #3875
Yeah i dont get the people saying dont use GG. DPS even says to use epoxy or polyurethane glue on their mounting instructions, which is what GG is. I mean if it was gonna ruin a ski a tour 1 DPS would be high on that list.
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