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  1. #3826
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    hey we or at least I are not dissing you cuz we need to pay high costs to have products shipped ... its out of your control
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  2. #3827
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    hey we or at least I are not dissing you cuz we need to pay high costs to have products shipped ... its out of your control
    Thanks & no worries, XXXer. I was just responding to the comments regarding the shipping set up we have in place. As an excellent Canadian resource for tuning & waxing tools & supplies, check out Tools4Boards in Calgary. I'm not sure Rick is set up with mounting tools & supplies, however, but I'll check.
    Best regards, Terry
    (Direct Contact is best vs PMs)

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  3. #3828
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    yeah thanx for that site link, its bookmarked, he has a ski mounting bit

    At 29$ I will probably keep drinking my way to drill stoppage

    https://www.tools4boards.com/shop/
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  4. #3829
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    that was the one I was looking at
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  5. #3830
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    Bought some Woodsmans with a holes for Salomon Warden at my BSL. I've mounted a number of skis but haven't done inserts before and would rather not unless it's really the right solution. So, best approach is to reuse holes, move bindings back/forward 1-2 cm, or find another binding that will work around holes?

  6. #3831
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    If your using the same binding, use the same holes and epoxy the screws in, drink a bevy and call it a day.

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    Why don't you go practice fallin' down? I'll be there in a minute.

  7. #3832
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    Quote Originally Posted by prsboogie View Post
    If your using the same binding, use the same holes and epoxy the screws in, drink a bevy and call it a day.

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    Yup, just be extra careful about making sure you donít cross-thread the holes and get a spinner. If you do get a spinner this thread is full of good tips for dealing with it


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  8. #3833
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    Mounted my own fucking skis today.

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    I used my carpenters square to X out some centerline dots on painters tape. Seemed to be pretty quick method as well as accurate (within .1mm with the calipers which is within my tolerances pencil in the centerline and the mount line and Iím ready for my ďjigĒ.

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    I used a few scrap pieces of lexan to make a more durable template, basically scribed in a centerline then matched it up with the paper template and drilled the holes. Labeled everything including my 315 bsl position to make it a bit easier to mount up.

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    Lay it out, clamp it down, drill it up, done. No beverage due to sober October.

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  9. #3834
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    nice work Ben
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  10. #3835
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    BS

    Many DIY things can go wrong, but more go right. Make good choices, and own the results.

  11. #3836
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    Quote Originally Posted by YaBoyBlue View Post
    Mounted my own fucking skis today.

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    I used my carpenters square to X out some centerline dots on painters tape. Seemed to be pretty quick method as well as accurate (within .1mm with the calipers which is within my tolerances pencil in the centerline and the mount line and Iím ready for my ďjigĒ.

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    I used a few scrap pieces of lexan to make a more durable template, basically scribed in a centerline then matched it up with the paper template and drilled the holes. Labeled everything including my 315 bsl position to make it a bit easier to mount up.

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    Lay it out, clamp it down, drill it up, done. No beverage due to sober October.

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    this is my method to the T well done

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  12. #3837
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    How tight do you guys go with the screws? Just feel it out? Debating a torque wrench or just drinking more beer and going a quarter turn past tight.

  13. #3838
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    yeah use a torque wrench thatíll work great
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  14. #3839
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    PSA: Mount your own fucking skis.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZskibum View Post
    How tight do you guys go with the screws? Just feel it out? Debating a torque wrench or just drinking more beer and going a quarter turn past tight.
    Lol, get them gutentight, no more or theyíll strip.

  15. #3840
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    til they strip and back it off 1/4 turn
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  16. #3841
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZskibum View Post
    How tight do you guys go with the screws? Just feel it out? Debating a torque wrench or just drinking more beer and going a quarter turn past tight.
    That's a great idea. I would go about 75 Nm.

  17. #3842
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3PinGrin View Post
    That's a great idea. I would go about 75 Nm.
    I just use a pneumatic impact driver. I've only plowed the screws through a binding and screwed the ski to my workbench once, so the overall time savings seems worth it.

  18. #3843
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    Why bother with the extra weight and complexity of screws? Just epoxy the binding to the topsheet.

  19. #3844
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    2 sided carpet tape ^^

    Fixing typers & printers I learned "the feel" early on cuz anything I stripped/broke I had to fix , I don't know how to describe the right amount of tork other than if it broke ... that was too much

    IMO when it comes to layout or drilling holes you can work-around any part of ski mounting with a T-square & a 5/32nd bit
    but what you can't work around is the need for a real PZ3 bit



    If i was getting paid to mount as many skis as I could in an 8hr shift I would have all the right tools & use an appropriately set screw gun to save my hands for one pair of skis a year I would just use regular hand tools
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  20. #3845
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    with the impact driver you don't really even need to drill holes, just ram the screws in there and go skiing
    I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.

  21. #3846
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZskibum View Post
    How tight do you guys go with the screws? Just feel it out? Debating a torque wrench or just drinking more beer and going a quarter turn past tight.
    Okay, some real advice now When you drop the screw into the hole, slowly turn it backwards until you feel it "drop" into the old threads. That works more often than not, sometimes it's a little hard to tell. Then snug by hand firmly but not as hard as you can. You don't really need to put much leverage into it, and you will feel it firm up.





    unless you get a spinner....

  22. #3847
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    Iíve used a drill in the past to remove and then set some binding screws (swapping bindings to new skis), with the clutch backed way out. I have always hand tightened though. And tapped threads.


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  23. #3848
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3PinGrin View Post
    Okay, some real advice now When you drop the screw into the hole, slowly turn it backwards until you feel it "drop" into the old threads. That works more often than not, sometimes it's a little hard to tell. Then snug by hand firmly but not as hard as you can. You don't really need to put much leverage into it, and you will feel it firm up.
    ..
    yeah this ^^ if you turn the screw backward using just the bit its easier to feel the start of the thread
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  24. #3849
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    Apparently you tee'd up all the comedians. Tapping helps feel you feel the bottom better but either way you'll figure it out after like the third one of your first pair so it'll have 13 good ones. And most (all?) screws and bindings have those little ridges on the parts where they contact. When you're tightening, they feel like zipper at first, then start individual index clicks. I do maybe 3-5 of the clicks, but it's another feel thing that you'll figure out. Whatever those ridges are called, I like them.

    The tutorial I read when I started said to make sure downward pressure on your driver is greater than rotational pressure and I thought that was good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caulfield View Post
    Apparently you tee'd up all the comedians. Tapping helps feel you feel the bottom better but either way you'll figure it out after like the third one of your first pair so it'll have 13 good ones. And most (all?) screws and bindings have those little ridges on the parts where they contact. When you're tightening, they feel like zipper at first, then start individual index clicks. I do maybe 3-5 of the clicks, but it's another feel thing that you'll figure out. Whatever those ridges are called, I like them.

    The tutorial I read when I started said to make sure downward pressure on your driver is greater than rotational pressure and I thought that was good advice.
    ribbed screw head is what I've always called it

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