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  1. #3076
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    I used heat gun, boiling water and soldering iron then tried the impact driver which finally fucked the screw so I had to use extractor. I mounted it with orange Hardman so I knew what was in there. I spent 98% of my time on that one stupid screw.

  2. #3077
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    I used heat gun, boiling water and soldering iron then tried the impact driver which finally fucked the screw so I had to use extractor. I mounted it with orange Hardman so I knew what was in there. I spent 98% of my time on that one stupid screw.
    Cue the annual “which glue?” debate...

  3. #3078
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    I used heat gun, boiling water and soldering iron then tried the impact driver which finally fucked the screw so I had to use extractor. I mounted it with orange Hardman so I knew what was in there. I spent 98% of my time on that one stupid screw.
    you need to grit your teeth when you do it
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  4. #3079
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reformed View Post
    Cue the annual “which glue?” debate...
    nope

    Hardman orange for me

    no debate

  5. #3080
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    you need to grit your teeth when you do it
    I think I did that

  6. #3081
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    I think the problem was that I used an old screw with a fucked up head

  7. #3082
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    reusing holes

    how do people feel about reusing mounting holes. I had a pivot heel break off on the baseplate and replaced it with another one. Just unscrewed the old one and woodglued the new one in. hasnt given me trouble yet

  8. #3083
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantequilla270 View Post
    how do people feel about reusing mounting holes. I had a pivot heel break off on the baseplate and replaced it with another one. Just unscrewed the old one and woodglued the new one in. hasnt given me trouble yet
    As long as the screws torqued down and didn't spin I wouldn't worry about it. I usually use marine epoxy for remounts but it is probably overkill.

    Checking your screws for tightness once in a while brings a lot of peace of mind for me.

  9. #3084
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    I think the problem was that I used an old screw with a fucked up head
    https://www.amazon.ca/TEKTON-2905-8-...85539586&psc=1

    I have an impact driver^^ which works well on Phillips or PZ screws and they are pretty cheap, a good tool to have. Back in the 70's japanese motorcycles were held togetehr with cheap phillips head screws which stripped really easy so you needed one of these to fix them, hitting the head of the driver with a hammer translates to rotational forces via ramps in the driver body so the driver head forces itself into the screw with every blow of the hammer as it rotates & can actualy fix the screw head

    the one i got also has a pz bit
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  10. #3085
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    As long as the screws torqued down and didn't spin I wouldn't worry about it. I usually use marine epoxy for remounts but it is probably overkill.

    Checking your screws for tightness once in a while brings a lot of peace of mind for me.
    yeah I check all the fasteners on a binding and the DIN settings as part of getting the ski ready to go for winter, I am careful on the screws holding a plastic tech heelpiece together, I just check to see if they are loose but I don't turn them cuz wood screws into plastic might strip
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  11. #3086
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    cross post from the Shift thread.

    new Shift guy here, mounting first pair.

    I read about the minor toe gap after proper installation. By my heal plates seem to not sit flush, almost like they're ever so slightly convex. I
    f the plastic wasn't so rigid I'd think I could just muscle them flush with the screws, but yea, they are stiff and I doubt it'll flatten out.

    Anyone else see this?

  12. #3087
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    Yeah, a tiny bit. Hasn't caused me any issues.

  13. #3088
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    ok so, all old holes filled with hardwood and Gflex, cured, no new holes closer than 3-4 mm edge to edge, screws set in more goo.

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    187 GPO, MAP carbon, semi Swiss cheesed but still awesome skis. I hope they don't explode.

  14. #3089
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyFoxxx View Post
    Mounted these a few weeks ago.

    How does 4FRNT measure from the tail to rec line? Straight pull on these was just under 870 mm (same as Blister states). 4FRNT website states 880 mm. Attachment 304162

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    ok so, all old holes filled with hardwood and Gflex, cured, no new holes closer than 3-4 mm edge to edge, screws set in more goo.

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    187 GPO, MAP carbon, semi Swiss cheesed but still awesome skis. I hope they don't explode.
    Not mounting related, but I don't care the GPO graphic in woodveneir is second to none... Great ski and killer topsheet...!

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  15. #3090
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    https://www.amazon.ca/TEKTON-2905-8-...85539586&psc=1

    I have an impact driver^^ which works well on Phillips or PZ screws and they are pretty cheap, a good tool to have. Back in the 70's japanese motorcycles were held togetehr with cheap phillips head screws which stripped really easy so you needed one of these to fix them, hitting the head of the driver with a hammer translates to rotational forces via ramps in the driver body so the driver head forces itself into the screw with every blow of the hammer as it rotates & can actualy fix the screw head

    the one i got also has a pz bit
    Not Phillips - JIS is what they used (the dot on the screwhead is the giveaway). They strip easily if you use a Phillips head (but who the shit has a JIS driver??). A manual impact driver is a wonderful thing!

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    PZ screws for bindings need to go away. So easy to strip... My Plum Oazos have them and I'm strongly considering swapping them with standard torx if they are the same length as the Dynafits screws.

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    A #2 square drive (Robertson for those of you who speak Canukistani) can be helpful when dealing with a close to stripped PZ screw head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by billyhoyle View Post
    Not Phillips - JIS is what they used (the dot on the screwhead is the giveaway). They strip easily if you use a Phillips head (but who the shit has a JIS driver??). A manual impact driver is a wonderful thing!

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    Ha never heard this , but yeah they sure stripped rsdy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    PZ screws for bindings need to go away. So easy to strip... My Plum Oazos have them and I'm strongly considering swapping them with standard torx if they are the same length as the Dynafits screws.
    I hear people complain about stripping the dynafit torx screws ?
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  20. #3095
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    this might be another good reason for QK inserts

    the screws I’ve bought for those always seem better than standard binding mount screws

    of course you can have issues with inserts you mount in your own fucking skis

  21. #3096
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    hey Nordic tech nerds?

    what glue do you use?

    seriously


    I’m mounting xc skis again for the first time in 20 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    hey Nordic tech nerds?

    what glue do you use?
    Reindeer semen.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Reindeer semen.
    The Russian stuff is cheaper but I get the good Norwegian goop. Less radioactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~mikey b View Post
    hey Nordic tech nerds?

    what glue do you use?

    seriously


    I’m mounting xc skis again for the first time in 20 years
    Same as alpine mounts. The Nords use longer screws and 14mm bits.....because they can.
    Best regards, Terry
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    I hear people complain about stripping the dynafit torx screws ?
    Ha! I've only stripped 1 torx to date by being a complete idiot. I've stripped multiple PZ screws without the excuse of not heating the epoxy...
    I mounted the Plums yesterday using the PZ screws they shipped with since I was short on torx and even with a brand new bit I had some skipping if the driver wasn't held perfectly straight. YMMV and I'm sure the Belgian Tripel I was pouring down my gullet didn't help though.

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