WEED, The Official Thread

[DasBlunt]

Now additives...thats what worries me.

Yeah, there was a big deal with a certain brand of feed recently here and in Cali. Caused all sorts of liver damage. Major growers were using it.

I bet Bobby Stainless knows the rest.

[gretch6364]

Once the vote is all finalized, for someone completely new to growing...

How difficult is it to maintain 6 plants?
Will six plants provide enough weed for a recreational user?
How difficult is it to get seeds for really good weed in CO?
What kind of cost is there associated with growing and maintaining 6 plants?
How much space would one need? If you live in an apartment, can you just grow it next to the window? Does it stink while it is growing?

With the federal law issues, one would think it would be best to pick up supplies for growing rather then having them mailed to you...duh! It also seems that it may be easier to just buy it, but as mentioned above...seems like there are going to be a TON of issues with that. Thx

EDIT: I guess I can do some online research and get all these answers...sorry. Also, I bet once this all pans out, AeroGarden will sell a crap load of units...plus I think they are in Boulder...haha

[jahoney]

Once the vote is all finalized, for someone completely new to growing...

How difficult is it to maintain 6 plants?
Will six plants provide enough weed for a recreational user?
How difficult is it to get seeds for really good weed in CO?
What kind of cost is there associated with growing and maintaining 6 plants?
How much space would one need? If you live in an apartment, can you just grow it next to the window? Does it stink while it is growing?

With the federal law issues, one would think it would be best to pick up supplies for growing rather then having them mailed to you...duh! It also seems that it may be easier to just buy it, but as mentioned above...seems like there are going to be a TON of issues with that. Thx

This is quick, not an end-all to your questions but;

6 plants would be easy. You have to watch them, work on em every day, but they only need water every few days.
6 plants would be plenty of weed. But, it depends on how much to toke. A heavy smoker can go through an ounce in less than two weeks, but most people aren't that ridiculous with it. It also depends on if you want to convert your trimmings and small nugs into hash which would make you yield go further.
Seeds shouldn't be hard to find, especially in CO. Ask your friends with a card. Honestly if its your first grow, going from clones would be easier and they're guaranteed to be female. and bomb.
Your costs are gonna be the initial purchase of lights, a grow tent, fertilizers, soil, clones, fans, etc. Then you gotta pay your electricity which will spike dramatically (possibly $100/month).. That is, unless you grow outside which you can only do in the summer.
It doesn't smell till it really starts flowering, but at that point it REEKS. I like the smell though. I'm not sure exactly how much room you'd need but for 6 plants you might need a little more than a small closet, probably a walk-in.

I don't think the feds mess around with small time recreational growers, but even if they did, the easiest place to buy is your local hydroponics store.

[45hill]

Tobacco companies will certainly jump in this game. Scary. Feed, chemicals, Mold and insects are a big problems for grows and I think a major corporation will only fuck it up worse, cause cancers, and be a pain in the ass.

You will see the same regulations that cigarettes have in terms of second hand smoke, smoking laws, and public safety laws.

Hello Monsanto.

This is one reason I voted no when it was on the ballot in California. It is basically legal here, 100 dollar fine that no cop writes anyway. I have a lot of friends that grow and the entire economy of northern California would be shut down.

[NoPostholio]

uugghh - toebacky and big pharma involved

that stinks

[Adamantium]

You forgot to add the part that says it will take eight hours to get clean enough to drive.

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The plot you quoted shows concentrations dropping to under 5 ng/mL (the legal limit set by the new law) at 2 hours.

i.e. for most people, 2-3 hours after is long enough to not get a DUI.

edit: Here is the original article from the Journal of Analytical Toxicology which produced the data points that were reproduced in the plot I posted, which you quoted.

Now additives...thats what worries me.

Pretty sure both laws have regulations stating that licensed growers and sellers must submit their product for testing, just like alcohol currently. This should help make sure dangerous pesticides etc. aren't used.

[Mofro261]

btw, the dui provision is bullshit. the 5 ng/mL level is just a number someone picked. there is no study showing that 5 ng/mL actually impairs someone so that they are incapable to drive. plus if someone is a habitual pot smoker it takes even longer for the THC levels in our blood to lower. that shit needs to be worked out, otherwise, you're going to see people getting dui's that are completely sober except that joint they smoked the night before.

I just don't see DUI's going up relative to the fear mongering going on about it. I smoked a j the night before so now my driving sucks in the morning enough to get pulled over? I know cops are prone to abuse probable cause but if I'm not breaking the law speeding or driving recklessly then why should I all of the sudden be concerned about 5ng/mL limits?

If I get in an accident and I'm suspected of being impaired, the 5ng/mL may snag some people.

[DasBlunt]

you don't think there is a pretty serious weed industry/infrastructure already established in the united states. I'm not sure an outside pharma company could really compete unless they come in and buy existing farms. Plus i think its still a little risky for a large company to invest in it seeing that its still illegal federally and federal enforcement on marijuana laws could change with a president. though it would be pretty scary and sad if mansanto got footing in the weed game......

does this mean the dispensaries in CO and OR will be open to anyone in 2013?
will there now be dispensaries in WA?

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Dispensaries in CO will NOT be open to the public because Medical laws have not changed. Prices will go down.

You will need a permit etc, to have any sort of weed business in CO, and that will not happen until next Oct 2013. Personal use and law enforcement will change as soon as the votes are verified.

MOFO answered your trolling questions. Do some more research before you spew non-sensacial shit.

[NoPostholio]

I just don't see DUI's going up relative to the fear mongering going on about it. I smoked a j the night before so now my driving sucks in the morning enough to get pulled over? I know cops are prone to abuse probable cause but if I'm not breaking the law speeding or driving recklessly then why should I all of the sudden be concerned about 5ng/mL limits?

If I get in an accident and I'm suspected of being impaired, the 5ng/mL may snag some people.

Have to agree with that logic. Plus the whole drawing blood thing will be its own worst enemy....there is a reason it is not used currently except in isolated occasions (death or serious accident?) - can't see it being too feasible to take blood from too many people and I could see the bar set pretty high for using it.

[Mofro261]

ganjapendance my friend does not involve either of those bullies, we will get you there additive free.
my stank dont lie .

true dat. I see growing in my future, just not in the near future because I sense my 14yo is already aware.

[Crass3000]

You forgot to add the part that says it will take eight hours to get clean enough to drive.

And that was assuming a 3.5% joint. Who wants to smoke shitty pot?

[Crass3000]

lot of dudes east of the misissippi i've heard

Funny, I live east off the Misssissippi. Maybe only a few miles but still east of the Mississippi.

[NoPostholio]

lot of dudes east of the misissippi i've heard

Quality of product was never the problem - my personal issue was always where it came from. Something created in local enviro has totally different vibe I have come to notice since this summers travels.
The E o Miss iss ippi prob is finding and keeping a consistent source. My hopes with these hudge political steps being taken is that this country can finally de stigmatize something that is such a plus to so many people. Person should feel no different with johnny walker black on rocks or 1/8th of your fav bud.

[Bobby Stainless]

Once the vote is all finalized, for someone completely new to growing...

How difficult is it to maintain 6 plants?
Will six plants provide enough weed for a recreational user?
How difficult is it to get seeds for really good weed in CO?
What kind of cost is there associated with growing and maintaining 6 plants?
How much space would one need? If you live in an apartment, can you just grow it next to the window? Does it stink while it is growing?

With the federal law issues, one would think it would be best to pick up supplies for growing rather then having them mailed to you...duh! It also seems that it may be easier to just buy it, but as mentioned above...seems like there are going to be a TON of issues with that. Thx

EDIT: I guess I can do some online research and get all these answers...sorry. Also, I bet once this all pans out, AeroGarden will sell a crap load of units...plus I think they are in Boulder...haha

1. It's easy to grow 6 plants.
2. I can get just under 2 pounds off of 6 plants. I know guys that can get 2 pounds per plant though.
3. seedbay.com and seedboutique.com
4. Depends on how high tech you want to go. Plasma lights are 1500 each.
5. Get a 4x4 tent or a 4x8 tent. Craigslist is a great place to buy grow equipment.
6. Yes it smells.
7. You have to replicate a night/day cycle to flower weed, so you can not grow it by a window, and expect any kind of results.

[buttahflake]

lot of dudes east of the misissippi i've heard

why so much hate for the east?
yer kinda of a douche, guy.

[Bobby Stainless]

If you dickheads spent half your time studying something of worth over your marijuana strains you'd be fucking rich beyond belief.

Wonder if anyone is going to make any money off this whole worthless weed growing thing?

Fucking idiot.

[link1]

I'be been doing fine on the east side of things for about 25 years. All depends on the genetics. No complaints yet.

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[thin cover]

Bobby that is sum ignant shit right there. For real


In other news Vermont passed 70% for the first EC state to make recreational use legal. Granted its a feeler vote for now. VT is the best state in the east to live in by far. I know Buttah disagrees

[PowerWhore7]

1. It's easy to grow 6 plants.

1 2 3 4 5 6....




Smoke up Johnny

edit: the sun will do just fine as well 1 2 3 4 5 6...

[NoPostholio]

Bobby that is sum ignant shit right there. For real


In other news Vermont passed 70% for the first EC state to make recreational use legal. Granted its a feeler vote for now. VT is the best state in the east to live in by far. I know Buttah disagrees

Prob my fault more - all my bellyaching about poor access helped shape bfberg's view - just tough for me here....never have a problem if I wanna drive to beantown. I blame the sawx for sucking so bad that I never want to go there. And Boston has some kickass weed.

TC - you are right about VT - If I could live in two spots it would be Nov to April in underhill center and rest of year on hood river somewhere close to couple volcanos

[buttahflake]

i'll tell ya it works bobo.
it works like this.
go fuck yourself, bobo.

das cunt and you, really love shiting on the east.
you and he are bros, breh?

[NoPostholio]

tell buttaflake how it works round my house and how we got no time for hate.

You and Rog found common ground....it is just bad nh > wash dynamic
can't we all just get a bong?

[NoPostholio]

This might be the only thread I have never seen rog post in - maybe non indulger?

I will call that a win...

[Zeedashbo]

Washington weed will be grown in Washington by Washingtonians.

At least that's what the law says will happen. I am doing my best to make sure that wagon has a seat for me.


Weekend after next Chris bobby. I'll relieve you of fire wood and we can spark some trees.

[45hill]

true dat. I see growing in my future, just not in the near future because I sense my 14yo is already aware.

I bet your 14 year old has already smoked and is pilfering your stash.

I was.