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  1. #1
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    If you were to have just one ski...

    If you could only pick one pair of skis for:
    70% Backcountry / 30% Resort
    You don't want to sacrifice tourability, but don't want to sacrifice charging in and out of bounds...

    What would you get?

    So far I'm looking at:
    Dynafit Stoke
    La Sportiva Hi5
    K2 Sidestash
    BD Megawatt

    I tour mostly in Washington State, like charging hard in both big snow and dropping into steep technical terrain.

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    Easy- flex 3 dps lotus 120's.

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    You just described my skiing. Let me describe your ski: Moment Bibby Pro.

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    ^^I think all 4 of us have similar tastes.

    I think you may want to ask yourself if you'd rather have optimal performance during the deep storm cycles of Jan-March, or if are you willing to give up a little bit of pow-shredding capacity in order to have a ski that will allow you to ski icy couloir entrances and late spring refreeze.

    If you prefer hard snow performance you may want to lean toward 140-110-130ish dimensions, a slightly stiffer flex, and slight(not dramatic) tip rocker: a ski like the movement trust. If you prefer pow performance, you may want to lean toward 150-120-140ish dimensions with a slightly softer flex, and more tip rocker: a ski like the liberty double helix.

    If it were me, I would buy the Movement Trust. I have been so impressed by the Movement Goliath. I have skied it for 5 straight seasons hard, and adding tip rocker seems like it would allow the pilot to stay more centered in pow, while not giving up that hard snow versatility that made me love it in the first place.

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    Moment PB&J is silly light, getting rave reviews for all over the mountain, apparently eats backcountry chutes and variable snow. IMO that's a better fit for 30% resort + touring than something >110 that weighs a lot more.

  6. #6
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    Prolly my Coombacks with Dynafits. But, fortunately, the notion of having only one ski is merely a thought experiment. And I'm an aging tourist who doesn't huck and enjoys the ups, so YMMV.

    My Sidestashes are okay for lift skiing but I wouldn't want to schlep them on a tour.

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    One pair? I have enough trouble trying to limit myself to 4 pairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bptempleton View Post
    Easy- flex 3 dps lotus 120's.
    I second this motion.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

  9. #9
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    Good comments. I think I'm leaning towards the Hi5; 105 under foot, light, big tip and tail. I'll mount with Dynafit TLT Radical FT Binding.

    The DPS looks pretty cool, though I don't want twin tip. Maybe I should look for something even fatter though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gone Skiing View Post
    You just described my skiing. Let me describe your ski: Moment Bibby Pro.
    Totally agree, I had countless days on mine last year in every East Coast condition.
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    I ride alone so I don't get held back by dead weights and dead beats. It's not always like that, but I destroy most skiers on the pistes.

  11. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by TodWA View Post
    Good comments. I think I'm leaning towards the Hi5; 105 under foot, light, big tip and tail. I'll mount with Dynafit TLT Radical FT Binding.

    The DPS looks pretty cool, though I don't want twin tip. Maybe I should look for something even fatter though....
    Practically no reviews of them though. Looking like a interesting pair of skis, not saying that.

    But for a pair of all mountain, everywhere, all around the season a pair of Elan 1010s or Katanas would be the ticket.
    Actually feeling waves of regret for selling the 1010s for a pair of LP 105s...

    But thats the way it is if you have the possibility for quiver of 3...

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  12. #12
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    Of the skis you listed, the Sidestash would be the logical choice as it does both back country and resort well. The other 3 are not great at the resort. I have skied the Stoke, and didn't like it in either, but it really sucked at the resort. The Hi 5 was given poor scores for hardpack and crud and the Megawatt is known for being a deep snow specialist.

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    Why in the world would I only have one pair of skis?

    That might be doable but one pair of bindings for bc and resort is far more retarded, unless you only ski ridiculously slowly in bounds.

    Just get two pairs of skis.
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  14. #14
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    If only one pair it would be the Movement Trust 186.

    I've not skied them yet but having skied almost everything Movement has made I think this is ideal.

    Sollyfit plates, or some version of inserts for alpines and then a plate for tech bindings.

    I've spent a fair amount of time on the Movement Jackal and at 17kg per ski I find it too light for skiing aggressive on heavy or variable snow. My main inbound ski is the Super Turbo and when I switch over to my "lightweight" touring set it falls short.

    If your 30% resort are going to be on the big deep days in the north west I'd side with a slightly burlier ski.

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    Sidestash for sure.

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    +3 on moment bibby bro - it is surprisingly versatile.

    big fat twin though...
    ... jfost is really ignorant, he often just needs simple facts laid out for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    If only one pair it would be the Movement Trust 186.

    I've not skied them yet but having skied almost everything Movement has made I think this is ideal.

    Sollyfit plates, or some version of inserts for alpines and then a plate for tech bindings.

    I've spent a fair amount of time on the Movement Jackal and at 17kg per ski I find it too light for skiing aggressive on heavy or variable snow. My main inbound ski is the Super Turbo and when I switch over to my "lightweight" touring set it falls short.

    If your 30% resort are going to be on the big deep days in the north west I'd side with a slightly burlier ski.
    Don't want to highjack the thread, but how do like the Jackal's for touring? You mean 1.7 kg per ski right?

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    Bibby Pro really is crazy versatile - got way more days on it in Austria last season than I expected (and that was a dire snow year). Not the best for icy serious steeps, but handles them way better than you'd expect. Light for the size too.

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    Easy

    Line influence 115.

    Sexiest ski out there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wetdog View Post
    Don't want to highjack the thread, but how do like the Jackal's for touring? You mean 1.7 kg per ski right?
    Correction it's 1.8kg per ski for the 185.

    I find they got bounced around when opening it up in heavier snow and funky wind packed snow. In perfect light powder they were good. Having spend lots of time on the Goliath and Sluff's then also getting Super Turbo's I was hoping for more from them. I think it's a factor of weight and tip shape.

    Personally I would take the weight penalty and go Trust for that size of ski. Then add in something way lighter for the long epic slogs when weight really matters.

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    I found myself having to make the one ski quiver decision last year and am very happy I made the choice that I did.

    187 Manaslu with FT12's and Titans.

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    192cm Fischer Watea 101's.

    Most versatile ski I've ever owned. That said, my 195cm Rossi Super 7's are WAY more fun in 2+ feet of powder.
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  23. #23
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    No one should be forced to have a one ski quiver... but I had to choose, i'd keep my Megawatts. I ski em 60 / 40 tour to inbounds ratio. Caviat that I don't give a sh*t about weight on the way up. Some people would point you to the dynafits with a 70/30 ratio... just depends on how you ski and what you value.

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    I'd shy away from the hi5 and stoke. Neither seem to have much dampening material and will feel very chattery, particularly if you are on tech bindings.

    Not to add to the Movement circle jerk, but I really like my 186 Trusts, and will probably spend most of my time this season on them. I ski at Stevens Pass.

    K2 Sidestashes are pretty fun, maybe a hair softer than Trusts? Only skied Sidestashes once for a couple runs.

    Maybe get a wide ski you really like for inbounds stuff and mount with an adjustable toe height binding and then get a narrowish ski for touring? One boot, and two skis.

    Of course it all depends on what you are really doing for touring? Laps in the near backcountry? Epic 20 mile slogs?

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    my xxl's with dukes. but im kinda weird like that
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