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  1. #401
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    you guys are strong.
    basin, you're killing it.

    had to hammer at the end to come in <8, but really happy with this! damper 5.
    body feels fine, lungs were on fire.
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    north bound horse.

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    Anybody using this model:
    BLACK CONCEPT 2 ROWERG ROWER - PM5

    Looking at adding a rower to my micro home gym...
    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tellybele View Post
    Anybody using this model:
    BLACK CONCEPT 2 ROWERG ROWER - PM5

    Looking at adding a rower to my micro home gym...
    Thanks in advance!
    That's the latest version. I have the same model with the PM3 computer but plan to update to a PM5 for the Bluetooth and ability to connect my Garmin

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    I have that, it is awesome. It connects to my phone erg data app, and it connects to my Garmin watch for Garmin connect tracking.
    HR Chest strap connects to pm5, and pm5 reports data to framing watch and phone. Setup your workouts in the erg data app, and it starts your watch and pm5 all at the same time. Pretty slick.
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  5. #405
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    That's the latest version. I have the same model with the PM3 computer but plan to update to a PM5 for the Bluetooth and ability to connect my Garmin
    By upgrade you mean the whole thing or can you just upgrade the computer?

  6. #406
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mani_UT View Post
    By upgrade you mean the whole thing or can you just upgrade the computer?
    I'm just going to buy a new computer. The machine itself hasn't changed in forever. The computers are $160 from their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    I'm just going to buy a new computer. The machine itself hasn't changed in forever. The computers are $160 from their website.
    Good to know! Thanks.

  8. #408
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    I bought the PM5 for my old concept2 and it works great. As noted, the updated computer connects to your chest Heart rate monitor, watch (apple in my case), and Strava if you track that way. I can't totally remember, so the technical differences are probably in connectivity more than anything else. But, if it it keeps the work out fresh and ultimately gets you pumped to do it, that's a total win anyway.

    Now I have to check my damper settings and 2K time.

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    Here is yesterday's 2k. 7:38. Getting better but still not what i had back in August.
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    The lunch time pull.
    4k.
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  11. #411
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    Getting back into doing 2ks instead of just doing 500m intervals. Goal is to get back to 7min. Felt pretty good, though I was gassed at the end.

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    Damn dude. Nice work! Do you have a training plan to get there? Mind sharing?

    I rowed a 2k yesterday, time is down to 7:34, 5 seconds faster than the last one.

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  13. #413
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    Getting back into doing 2ks instead of just doing 500m intervals. Goal is to get back to 7min. Felt pretty good, though I was gassed at the end.
    7:18?! dang.

    Then I doubt your username refers to body type.
    north bound horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbeater View Post
    Damn dude. Nice work! Do you have a training plan to get there? Mind sharing?

    I rowed a 2k yesterday, time is down to 7:34, 5 seconds faster than the last one.

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    Thanks. Around 10yrs ago I pulled my fastest at 6:45, but I don't have that in me anymore. I want to get back to 7:00. I have my damper set at 7. Much below that and it feels like I'm not doing enough. I don't have much of a training plan as I mix/match workouts a lot.

    My goal is to row twice a week. My workout that day was 3x 500m (under 1:50 pace, rest 1-2 minutes between), 2000m (rest 3-5 minutes), 3x 500m.

    One of my favorite workouts now is to throw on a weighted vest (I use 40#) and get on the treadmill set at 15% incline at 3mph and walk. I stop every 10 minutes for a quick upper body set and then go again. I shoot for 1hr, but any time is good.

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    [QUOTE=phatty;6746277]Thanks. Around 10yrs ago I pulled my fastest at 6:45, but I don't have that in me anymore. I want to get back to 7:00. I have my damper set at 7. Much below that and it feels like I'm not doing enough. I don't have much of a training plan as I mix/match workouts a lot.

    My goal is to row twice a week. My workout that day was 3x 500m (under 1:50 pace, rest 1-2 minutes between), 2000m (rest 3-5 minutes), 3x 500m.

    One of my favorite workouts now is to throw on a weighted vest (I use 40#) and get on the treadmill set at 15% incline at 3mph and walk. I stop every 10 minutes for a quick upper body set and then go again. I shoot for 1hr, but any time is good.[/QUOTE

    Your times are almost identical to mine !! Even at 10 years ago and to present day. keep it up !!
    What if "Alternative" energy wasn't so alternative ?

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    So just for kicks I've been playing with the damper on last 3 2K's.
    7:56 with the damper on 5 and 6, but was a 8:09 with it on 7. I couldn't really go harder, but I actually wasn't hardly worked at the end. So then, I guess I shoulda gone way harder .
    A good friend of mine is a crossfit coach, going to help me go harder on the rower - keep it interesting. Current goals of 2K < 7:30, and 5K <20 - both seem pretty ambitious for me right now.

    In other news, my PM5 firmware says out of date. mac software is too old to run the update, mac is too old to update the iOs software. Doesn't seem to be possible to update from my phone. You guys had to update? Any suggestions?
    north bound horse.

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    I've had to update the one in my basement and the one at work. To do the update, i installed the concept2 utility on my windows laptop, and bring a USB cable to plug the pm5 into the laptop, update the pm5. Pretty straightforward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight View Post
    So just for kicks I've been playing with the damper on last 3 2K's.
    7:56 with the damper on 5 and 6, but was a 8:09 with it on 7. I couldn't really go harder, but I actually wasn't hardly worked at the end. So then, I guess I shoulda gone way harder .
    A good friend of mine is a crossfit coach, going to help me go harder on the rower - keep it interesting. Current goals of 2K < 7:30, and 5K <20 - both seem pretty ambitious for me right now.

    In other news, my PM5 firmware says out of date. mac software is too old to run the update, mac is too old to update the iOs software. Doesn't seem to be possible to update from my phone. You guys had to update? Any suggestions?
    You can update with a USB drive too, but presumably you'd need to find someone with the latest C2 utility software to make the USB file.

    In other news, I updated my ErgData app recently and love the new data it provides. Power vs. time plot is very nice to see if you're drifting away from your target.
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  19. #419
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    Nice work with those times in there.

    For me....just spinning on damper setting of 4 for 30 minutes. Best so far was averaging 1:57 / 500m. That being said I'm 6'3 and pretty heavy. For workout I think long steady state rows to get a base in. This will help you when it comes time to start hammering shorter pieces.

    Do something like 30 minutes at 22-24 spm 2-3 times per week. Then twice a week warm up for 10 minutes at 22-24 spm, then get into some pieces. This is what I've just started. Go with something like 4 x 3 minute pieces as around to slightly below 2k pace. Rest for 2-3 minutes in between pieces. Other one would be warm up for 10 minutes at 22-24 spm, then hammer 3 x 5 minute pieces at 26-28 spm at slightly below 2k pace. Do this for 4-6 weeks and I have a feeling you will be breaking your time when it comes to 2k.

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    I read somewhere that you should finish every weight lifting session with a hard 500 pull. So today I did. It was hard. Other people at the gym were looking at me funny as i sat on the ground sucking wind afterwards.
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    Rawr! PR 2k. 7:21.7

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    Decided to pregame Christmas and put in the work today. Each round of rowing was followed by by

    25 KB swings (28kg)
    10 DB clean/press (50# DBs)
    10 Tricep press (heavy band)
    10 shoulder raise (medium band)

    500m - 1:38
    2000m - 7:11.5
    500m - 1:43
    2000m - 7:26
    500m - 1:48

    First 2k time is my fastest in at least 5yrs. Grateful for this thread pushing me. Goal for '23 is to get back below 7 minutes for 2k.

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    Yeah this thread is motivating.
    You are on a roll!

    I finally got back on a machine. There is shit going down in the Bolivia right now, so we couldn't leave the city today. So off to the country club, where wouldn't you know it. Couple of concept 2 machines. 1136 3k.
    I've been eating a lot down here. Dayum.
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    Lost the rate a bit toward the end, but a good swing this morning to start the year


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    Damn. That's impressive.

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