I haven't been paying attention

**squatch** · 10-01-2011, 04:48 PM

Is there a reasonably priced ski out there that is
1. Long (195-200cm),
2. Stiff
3. Rockered
4. 115-120 underfoot.
5. Designed well

Did the Super 7s live up to the hype? I've been in a cave for a while. That might be an option. The Llhasas too, obviously, come to mind, but I sort of like the heft of metal.

**The Duke of Hurl** · 10-01-2011, 06:18 PM

How reasonable? Rockered tip and tail? Long, stiff, cheap, metal 115-120, Bluehouse shoots (tight shoots) come to mind.
Some debate here re: designed well.

**camlax** · 10-01-2011, 06:23 PM

196 bibby?

**Caucasian Asian** · 10-01-2011, 07:07 PM

Faction Thirteen

**hop** · 10-01-2011, 07:46 PM

Salomon El Dictator?

**pfluffenmeister** · 10-01-2011, 08:49 PM

movement super turbo?

(probably not too cheap).

**Atrain505** · 10-01-2011, 08:54 PM

Since you briefly mentioned. 196 lhasa and just ask Pat to build them according to Maxim's specs. I don't recommend them for normal human beings.

**marcusling** · 10-01-2011, 09:38 PM

go talk to mntlion on this forum. Big Dumps for 300

**squatch** · 10-01-2011, 11:00 PM

those movements look fucking awesome. now where to find a 202...

**wren** · 10-02-2011, 01:13 AM

191 Billy Goat? They're as long or a touch longer than 195 Super 7s.

**Vitamin I** · 10-02-2011, 02:17 AM

Don't limit yourself to the newest releases---reasonably-priced is not always easy to find on new skis. A good ski is a good ski, whatever year. You are huge, with limited options. Just get an affordable used pair, and if it doesn't have the rocker design you like, then home-bend whatever rocker you need.

207 Fischer Duke 207, saw off that tail crap (no metal, but hefty)
200 Iggy FFF (no metal, but hefty---but even used pairs are not cheap)
199 Kingswood models (no metal, but maybe hefty enough)
198 RC112 (no matter how beatup, it will likely still be stiff enough)
197 Katana
196 Lhasa with custom heaviest layup
196 Scott Stunt
195 Mothership
195 S7 (skis short with a fw mountpoint, so if you count this as "long", then you might as well be open to shorter but HEAVY burl like 191 Shoots, 192 Big Dump, or 192 Praxis BigMtn120, or even 192 Sally Rocker)
194 El Dictator
194 Faction Thirteen
193 Prior Overlord ??? (but even used pairs are not cheap) They don't weigh very light on the scale, but somehow don't ski very "hefty" to me---lively instead of damp.
191-192 shorter ones are listed with the 195 S7 above

Getting to the shorter ones now, so I'll quit there.

If you don't require super-damp, then I'd say just pry a 198 RC112 from some previous owner's hands and you're done. Probably skis better after its beatup anyway.

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**willmtbike4food** · 10-02-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Vitamin I

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I'd say just pry a 198 RC112 from some previous owner's hands

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This is the first thing that came to mind when I read the thread title, too.

**pfluffenmeister** · 10-02-2011, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by squatch

those movements look fucking awesome. now where to find a 202...

i just picked up a pair of 192s, the hand flex is sweet.

snow, snow, snow ...

edit: pm verbier51?, i think he picked up a pair of 202s last season.

**otto parts** · 10-02-2011, 07:10 PM

http://www.backcountry.com/salomon-e...rrProd=SAL2052

196 Renegade
196 Lhasa Max with new layup

**stoepstyle** · 10-03-2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by wren

191 Billy Goat? They're as long or a touch longer than 195 Super 7s.

Or 191 Wrenegades? Only tip rocker

**skimaxpower** · 10-03-2011, 01:56 PM

RC112 or Big Dump.

You should be able find either ski lightly used or on clearance for under $400 USD.

**mnflyfish** · 10-05-2011, 09:24 AM

Surface New Life or Live Life are a solid choice. Both list at $599 but EVO.com usually has last season's on their site. I ski a couple different Surface skis and love them.

**arild** · 10-05-2011, 02:01 PM

Whitedot Ragnarok XII, 193cm, 143-120-130, 30cm tip rocker. Will post a review this season.

**swartzl6** · 10-05-2011, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by mnflyfish

Surface New Life or Live Life are a solid choice. Both list at $599 but EVO.com usually has last season's on their site. I ski a couple different Surface skis and love them.

I picked up a pair of 190 live lifes last season. I'm excited to take them out. Just need some snow

**dfinn** · 10-05-2011, 03:33 PM

^ do those actually meet his #2 requirement? I've been told they don't.

**D(C)** · 10-05-2011, 03:45 PM

4FRNT Renegade

**Lindahl** · 10-06-2011, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by mnflyfish

Surface New Life or Live Life are a solid choice. Both list at $599 but EVO.com usually has last season's on their site. I ski a couple different Surface skis and love them.

A buddy had some Live Life 2s. They were pretty soft and the wierd bend style of rocker didn't work well at all (abrupt changes in speed when changing between different conditions). Subtle smooth rocker works much better. He got rid of them for that reason. I'm pretty sure he mentioned that Surface is changing to a normal rocker either this year or next year.