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05-22-2019, 09:32 AM #151
The whole premise of this question is problematic.
10 is the worst. negative 10 is the nicest. zero is the breakover from primarily nasty to primarily nice.
it's all relative. What is Reno? Good question, seemed like a zero to me.
What is Santa Fe? Maybe negative 2?
What is Gary Indiana? 7 or 8 maybe?
How about Louisville KY? 2 Ogdens.
The thing is, if you know me, and you know any of those places, if I then say:
Boise...probably zero
Traverse City...about negative 2
St. Louis...8 Ogdens
Cincinnatti..probably 2 Ogdens
You have both a sense of how I rate these places and how they compare, to me. Folks will disagree on the numbers, but usually the place I call 5 Ogdens isn't a place anyone is putting in negative Ogdens.
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05-22-2019, 09:38 AM #152
I went to Louisville last year, and it was ok. We walked to one of the events, and ended up walking through one of the most burned out dilapidated areas I have ever walked through. In a suit no less. Should have taken an Uber. Sketchy. Other parts were ok.I like Boise.
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05-22-2019, 10:08 AM #153
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05-22-2019, 10:28 AM #154
Does Ogden have a White Castle?
I still call it The Jake.
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05-22-2019, 10:31 AM #155
You mean a Mormon temple? That's what my kids call them...
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05-22-2019, 10:33 AM #156
I get the sense that Yeti's is a very nonlinear scale, maybe logarithmic? I mean, any kind of linear scale would keep pretty much any place in the US to an absolute value of about 7 at most these days. Are Yemen and Damascus seeing the consideration they deserve? Or do you quietly leave a little room above 10 for actual war zones given their transient nature? Shirley Gary has to be several Ogdens less than most of Syria, doesn't it?
If trying to tie Ogdens to real estate it would be easier (not to say better--pm Buster Highman) if the scale was linear. But you'd have to update the absolute magnitude of an Ogden pretty regularly as world extremes change or you'd risk making basinbeater right and no one wants that. So maybe the nonlinear scale that's flatter in the middle is a good thing?
I think detailed discussion of these points will eventually bring basinbeater around. He just needs to focus.
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05-22-2019, 10:53 AM #157
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05-22-2019, 10:59 AM #158
I’m not an expert on Shitholes of The World so I’d have no sensible basis to compare anywhere in Syria with anywhere I’ve experienced personally.
I am, however, an expert at comparing and describing things. The Ogden is for comparing and describing. It’s not a strict unit of measure.
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05-22-2019, 11:02 AM #159
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05-22-2019, 11:12 AM #160
I’ve been to some true 3rd world shitholes that are a 10 for sure. I agree that nothing in the states could possible compare. In fact I put forth that nothing in the us could be more than 7 and that nothing in Canada could be more than 6.
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05-22-2019, 11:15 AM #161
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05-22-2019, 11:15 AM #162
I think we should hold up on labeling places shitholes until Hugh weighs in.
I still call it The Jake.
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05-22-2019, 11:16 AM #163
Or best would be 0, and worst would be 1000. Pass the black please
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05-22-2019, 12:25 PM #164
Worst I have seen in the states was in Chicago. Cousin picked me up at Midway airport in a rental car, headed to the f1 race at Indianapolis, and we got lost on the se side of town. Holy shit. We ran red lights and kept going until we got out of there.
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05-22-2019, 12:43 PM #165
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05-22-2019, 12:46 PM #166yelgatgab
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Google maps routed me through the worst part of Cleveland. Google lady even said, "you've arrived at the worst part of Cleveland". The road was gravel and I passed two separate sidewalk fires, which is like a campfire, with people standing around it and drinking and bullshitting, but on a sidewalk. Cleveland Clinic is nice and we had some great food, so I give Cleveland a 5.
Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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05-22-2019, 12:47 PM #167
Crypto-ogdens. Blockchain based ratings.
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05-22-2019, 12:51 PM #168
East St Louis IL isn’t just a place where things are kind of ugly, it’s a place where the locals are stoked you’re there so they can kill you and take your shit. The difference between most bad neighborhoods and East STL is the difference between being out of place and being prey.
Last edited by ill-advised strategy; 05-22-2019 at 09:47 PM. Reason: Clarity of language
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05-22-2019, 12:52 PM #169
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05-22-2019, 12:54 PM #170
That’s East Cleveland, it’s own city, and every bit deserving of a 5.
Cleveland proper is a 2.
I think we have some issues here though. If East Cleveland is a 5, which is halfway to Somalia at 10, then the level of shittyness as you approach the ends of the scale must be parabolic.I still call it The Jake.
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05-22-2019, 12:54 PM #171
New driving game:
"ok google... take me to the worst part of_______"
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05-22-2019, 12:57 PM #172
I did almost that same thing...except the rental I got at Midway was a Dodge Challenger and, being a meaty clean cut white guy in a new Dodge, I think I looked like a detective....so I stopped at all the stop signs and saw the sights and got me some bangin Mexican food.
good Mexican thataway!
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05-22-2019, 12:59 PM #173
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05-22-2019, 01:00 PM #174
In Chicago, we we're driving through a burned out boarded up neighborhood, and at a light, there was a guy walking through the middle of the intersection with no shirt on, a large metal pipe in one hand, and a big gnarly looking dog on a thick chain. We didn't see any open Mexican joints.
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05-22-2019, 01:00 PM #175
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