Kraukauer vs. Mortensen

[nbt]

http://outsideonline.com/adventure/t...ev_155690.html

[nbt]

Now Kraukauer even has a book about it coming out:

http://www.byliner.com/

[Skidog]

they were on 60 minutes last night...Mortensen is a thief from what i could tell...

[butterscotch]

Maybe instead of "Three Cups of Deceit", Krakauer should just call his book "Schadenfreude."

[PNWbrit]

How much of the Jon Krakauer book about Greg Mortensen will actually be just another excuse for Jon Krakauer to write about Jon Krakauer...

[leroy jenkins]

Werent there reports from guides and climbers that were also there that kraukauer used considerable literary license when writing into thin air?

[Skidog]

How much of the Jon Krakauer book about Greg Mortensen will actually be just another excuse for Jon Krakauer to write about Jon Krakauer...

I laughed...

[PNWbrit]

Werent there reports from guides and climbers that were also there that kraukauer used considerable literary license when writing into thin air?

[kevok2]

Werent there reports from guides and climbers that were also there that kraukauer used considerable literary license when writing into thin air?

I believe he made a few mistakes when identifying members of the group or recounting things exactly as they occurred, but I don't know about "considerable" literary license.

Kraukauer

Krakauer. Sorry, just needed to correct the spelling of my name

[Hugh Conway]

How much of the Jon Krakauer book about Greg Mortensen will actually be just another excuse for Jon Krakauer to write about Jon Krakauer...

It's a book by someone who likes to write about themselves talking about someone who does charity work so they can talk about themselves. edit: oops for the take slip

What's the new "help the world" book yuppies are talking about?

[powdherb]

Sure he's a dick for lying, but in reality, what do his detractors want? If indeed his proceeds (or at least a substantial portion) go to doing good, who gives a fuck if he lied about his story?

Sensationalist dickwads letting their egos get in the way of seeing the big picture.

[Hugh Conway]

Sure he's a dick for lying, but in reality, what do his detractors want? If indeed his proceeds (or at least a substantial portion) go to doing good, who gives a fuck if he lied about his story?

Sensationalist dickwads letting their egos get in the way of seeing the big picture.

The "big picture" is that the charity spent $1.7 million promoting Mortenson's book and >50% of the money was spent in the US or some such and he treated the charity as a "personal ATM".

[PNWbrit]

What's the new "help the world" book yuppies are talking about?

It's an exposé of how Amy Chua gave Lance Armstrong performance enhancing drugs during their passionate affair while leaving her kids playing nintendo and ignoring their violin practice.

On kindle

[Skidog]

The "big picture" is that the charity spent $1.7 million promoting Mortenson's book and >50% of the money was spent in the US or some such and he treated the charity as a "personal ATM".

Thank you Hugh...obviously herb is just talking to talk. He did not watch the 60 minutes last night nor did he do anything resembling research before he spouted off..

The entire charity and the reason people give it money is largely based on those books being fact...if they truly arent (and there are many witnesses who say they arent) then its all a ruse.

FYI Krakauer, as cocky as he is, was one of the largest contributors to this "charity" before he noticed something was amiss.

[PNWbrit]

FYI Krakauer, as cocky as he is, was one of the largest contributors to this "charity" before he noticed something was amiss.

Is he donating proceeds of this book?

[JoeStrummer]

Is he donating proceeds of this book?

It's an e-book you can download for free, not sure if there will be any proceeds.

Most of this stuff has been known for awhile, I think it took Krakauer and a couple others finally getting pissed off at the misappropriation of finances to bring it to light. In other words, he could've kept right on lying if the money was going where it should be going and if he had allowed an Exec Director with some balls and input.

Tom Hornbein said it best, "With one hand Greg has created something beautiful and caring (regardless of his motives.) With the other he has murdered his creation by his duplicity."

[PNWbrit]

It's an e-book you can download for free, not sure if there will be any proceeds.

Oh. I hadn't looked at his website but see it is...

Free for 72 hours and All author proceeds will go to the Stop Girl Trafficking Project

Good for him.

[cliffhucker]

I find all of this, and more very entertaining...

[Edgnar]

Doesn't this belong in the padded room?

[GeezerSteve]

I read the first chapter of Krakauer's Three Cups of Deceit. Typical Krakauer ultra dry newspaper prose, but it does seem well researched. Maybe this is Krakauer's apology for writing that gossip rag Into Thin Air

[spindrift]

Sure he's a dick for lying, but in reality, what do his detractors want? If indeed his proceeds (or at least a substantial portion) go to doing good, who gives a fuck if he lied about his story?

Sensationalist dickwads letting their egos get in the way of seeing the big picture.

When I first started seeing articles about this situation, my generally optimistic outlook led me to suspect a little exaggeration, a little sloppiness, etc., etc. However, yesterday afternoon my curiosity got the better of me. I looked up the board of directors & tried to find some decent biographical info about them. It was depressing.

At best the board is too small and unqualified. Spend a few minutes reading up on governance, board structures, etc. Then see what the scoop is at CAI. Now contemplate the kind of board talent that should have been available to Mortensen. While it is hard to know without hard information (the kind CAI seems never to make available), the picture does not look pretty.

[bennettc14]

I watched the 60 Minutes on Sunday night. Mortensen looked like a complete douche. I thought the story of him getting "captured" by the Taliban was pretty funny. They brought in a guy from the photo and he was literally saying it was a family photograph and had absolutely nothing to do with the Taliban. I think Mortensen has done some noble charity work but why lie about it and exaggerate the number of schools you built and what not. A coworker of mine brought in the book and I told her to watch the 60 mins/read the article before opening it up.

[mr_gyptian]

Werent there reports from guides and climbers that were also there that kraukauer used considerable literary license when writing into thin air?

the accusations against Mortenson are hardly about literary license. He's being accused of stealing or "misappropriating" millions of dollars. Not exactly, just spicing up a story to help out a narrative.

[Yonder_River]

It was unfortunate to hear about this. He knows he f'ed up and it sounds like he's trying to hide behind the excuse that he's socially awkward and naive. Don't think it's gonna work.

[RootSkier]

Here's a version with Mortenson's side. Seems like there are definitely some problems but this isn't nearly as damning as the 60 minutes version.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com...cc4c002e0.html