Lotus 138--anyone prefer rocker 1 to rocker 3?

[jorion]

So, I've read through this thread and the Ode to the L138 thread. Rocker 3.2 pures...on the line is the consensus? And I see some instructions that say to use a 3.5 bit and some that say a 4.1. (I know, I'm gonna die with the wrong bit).

Wish I didn't need to remount, but I refuse to ski Radicals in 2021.

Dreaming of the 0-2 days per season I may actually ski these things.

[summit]

On Pures I always did 3.5 but tapped it like metal.

[1000-oaks]

^ After 3.5 and tapping, how hard was it to turn the screws? (Meaning was the root diameter of the screw having a hard time fitting through the carbon layer due to a tight fit?)

I used 4.1 and tapped the earlier model, thinking the thick carbon layer wouldn't want to stretch around the root diameter of the screw.

[El Chupacabra]

DPS says use 4.1mm.

[Toddball]

So, I've read through this thread and the Ode to the L138 thread. Rocker 3.2 pures...on the line is the consensus? And I see some instructions that say to use a 3.5 bit and some that say a 4.1. (I know, I'm gonna die with the wrong bit).

Wish I didn't need to remount, but I refuse to ski Radicals in 2021.

Dreaming of the 0-2 days per season I may actually ski these things.

Bump. Where do people mount these? DPS site says they recommend +1.5cm (what's the point of a "recommended" line then?), different recommended mounts for Pure and Alchemist, very confusing. Most of my other skis are mounted -1 to -5 of ski center, so I'm comfortable with forward mounts, but if I get tip dive that would be embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I should mention that mine are R3.2, flex 2, Pure, 192cm.

DPS mount chart, etc:
https://www.dpsskis.com/company/faqs/tuning-mounting

Unfortunately the mounting recommendations chart is now a dead link (can be found with the Wayback Machine, though), but it says to mount 138s at +1.5cm. I followed this guidance for my 192cm Rocker 3.2 Flex 2 Pures, and like them there, but I tend to like more forward mount points anyway. I wouldn't mount behind the midsole line, but I think some people in the Ode thread did and they like that, too.

If you mount touring bindings on these things you get to ski them way more than 0-2 days per season. I put DynaLook plates on mine, but I think I'm going to remove them because I never really want alpine bindings on these things anyway. Maybe the heavier layups work better for resort pow, but I feel like the Pures really shine as touring skis.

[jorion]

Ok, 4.1mm bit it is, thanks y’all.

I plan on only touring on these. I didn’t ride any lifts last year anyway. I’m perfectly happy most of the time on my bmt109s, but occasionally I wouldn’t mind lugging the extra weight up the hill for certain circumstances. I used to have a pair of purple 138 spoons and had one of the best runs of my life on such a day.

I’ll probably mount on the line but with the atk xxl toe plates, so that I can try +1.5 also. I need to use them to avoid holes anyway.

Thanks for that link as well, I had remembered that that page existed and checked the wayback machine already, but a different year’s capture that said something else haha. It would be nice if they had specified which iteration of the l138 they were talking about…

[1000-oaks]

For anyone who didn't read from page 1, the recommended mounting points vary by version.

[tuco]

They also spec epoxy as hole lube/seal. Later amended to include polyurethane glue

[HAB]

Unfortunately the mounting recommendations chart is now a dead link (can be found with the Wayback Machine, though), but it says to mount 138s at +1.5cm. I followed this guidance for my 192cm Rocker 3.2 Flex 2 Pures, and like them there, but I tend to like more forward mount points anyway. I wouldn't mount behind the midsole line, but I think some people in the Ode thread did and they like that, too.

If you mount touring bindings on these things you get to ski them way more than 0-2 days per season. I put DynaLook plates on mine, but I think I'm going to remove them because I never really want alpine bindings on these things anyway. Maybe the heavier layups work better for resort pow, but I feel like the Pures really shine as touring skis.

Thanks for digging that up. I've got my 192 Pure 3 Spoons mounted at about +0.5 with touring bindings, but I'm tempted to add inserts for alpine clamps too, and think I would be inclined to go forward a little. Nice to have the confirmation.

[detrusor]

Man I’d love to have a pair of these in the quiver. Anybody done?


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