Salomon AT binding <world exclusive spy shot>

[Scottish_Skier]

So........... One of my Scottish friends emailed this photo over last week.
It was taken discretely in a Courmayeur car park about 10 days ago.

Its a bit blurry and zoomed. But photo features Salomon Rocker 2 / New Quest Boot (with inserts) plus what appears to be a Salomon AT proto-type binding . All thanks should go to Graham P. for taking the photo (he is currently living the ski bum dream in Chamonix).

Now in finest TGR tradition please post up pics of your naked sister / girlfriend in return

[SiSt]

A little zoom...

[peterslovo]

Wow, that toe piece looks very Dukeish.

[justcuz]

I just may be unveiling some shots of that new quest boot next week. I know you guys would rather see spy shots of the duke killer, but you just might have to settle.

[Skidog]

Looks jsut about what i saw last season at a focus group. Color is different but...the rest looks same. Duke like toe...sallie heel..metal rails. Low stack height (compared to dukes).

Now the new Quest boot I had not seen. What last did they use, anyone know? I have tried previous models but man they have cavernous heel pockets, the fit of the ghost (which is basically a 2 buckle falcon race boot) is much better for my skinny heels.

[justcuz]

Skidog,

Quest 14 fit is pretty similar to last year's 12 in my opinion. Boot fitter should chime in here, but I did feel like the heel pocket was a tad less roomy. Perhaps this was due to my new insoles, perhaps the liner had a little more girth, maybe slightly thicker socks....who knows. But I'm currently skiing the quest 14's with no modifications and have the same skinny heel problem you do.

[Eluder]

So why didn't you just post it here?

[shirk]

You really should add more tiny watermarks, not nearly enough on that photo.

[f2f]

i think TGR should add tiny watermarks on everything that gets uploaded to this forum.

[stuckathuntermtn]

Oh ffs. Is it me or is that a Z toe POS?
I under stand the the pilot toe isn't the lightest, and would mess with the pivot point. What really freaked me out with the Duke-type system (and this was only a Griffin) was how little elasticity it had, and how hard it was to click in and out of while lying there tangled after almost blowing my ACL.
Does the F12 mitigate this at all without being a total POS?
Can anyone make any additional constructive comments on what I'm talking about? Someone must know what I mean. Especially Tone Capone.

[Ted Striker]

Wow, that toe piece looks very Dukeish.

Which is good for the pivot location. A traditional salomon toe with a longitudinal spring would require the pivot to be really forward or a really high stack height.

Duke like toe...sallie heel..metal rails. Low stack height (compared to dukes).

All good. Anyone know anything about the mode switch?

[Skidog]

All good. Anyone know anything about the mode switch?

I know you dont have to take off yer skis.

[Ted Striker]

Hunter, yeah, that's the trade-off. You're not going to get an elastic toe or low stack height without having the pivot being really far forward.

[Ted Striker]

I know you dont have to take off yer skis.

Excellent. That's the answer I was looking for.

[Skidog]

Oh ffs. Is it me or is that a Z toe POS?

NOT Z toe...toe height is adjustable with a top screw just like most sallie clamps.

[Huck_Schmuck]

Doug for the scoop! And the dodgy watermark. ;-)

[Dr.Sih]

Sweet shot! Can't wait to see some more of this binding.

[powtario]

Solly AT binding, Tecnica Cochise, 191 Lhasa's....now all I need is 2K!

[stuckathuntermtn]

is it just me or does that thing look like a pos? I guess time will tell, I really want it to not be.

[Mustonen]

is it just me or does that thing look like a pos? I guess time will tell, I really want it to not be.

One grainy, zoomed in photo and you can make a determination of quality?

Is it just me or should huntermtn shut the fuck up? You don't need to post every poorly constructed thought that pops into your bird brain.

[verbier61]

well done, Doug :-)
now, if it is a 2-bars AT binding like the silvretta, IMVHO it's a recipe for bad skiing due to torsion.
But maybe the solly anti-torsion solution is different from the noooodly silvrettas

[Mustonen]

Not having skied them, the Silvretta's anti-torsion solution IS those two bars, attached way behind the heel. Of course that sucks. The Duke (and it looks like the Sally's, from the little I can see) relies on an interface underneath and around the heel. It doesn't matter if the connection between toe and heel is made of out of a dowel rod, because it doesn't have anything to do w/ the torsional rigidity.

[nickwm21]

Finally someone manned up.

I will reserve my opinion until I step into one

[Scottish_Skier]

Credit should go to my friend Graham for the cheeky spy shot. Being an internet ski geek I just posted it up (so far no letter from any lawyers!).

Historically Salomon make some of the best downhill bindings. So would be very surprised if these aren't very good once released. I am just amazed they didn't do an touring option 5 years ago.

[SiSt]

Looks to me like they´ve done the same thing as on the duke, except in metal (prob alu) and with a lower stack. Meaning the rails sit flush on the ski, not one meter up like silvrettas, plus they´re attached on several points aling the length of the binding. End speculation on my part.

50% of the overhead from this binding go to TC?