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Thread: Snow for the Euros.
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10-23-2018, 12:50 AM #16276Registered User
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there has been some discussion in the trip reports:
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ps-Summer-2018
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...e-Italian-Alps
Me personally I've only been in summer (so more steep rock for the euros ;-)
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10-23-2018, 10:57 AM #16277
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10-23-2018, 02:51 PM #16278Registered User
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Not a Euro mag, but I did a couple (maybe 3) days in M dC in January 2015 after a few days staying in Corvara and skiing the Sella. There was a lot more going on in the town than in Corvara, which is sleepy, but it didn't necessarily look much more active or large than Val Gardena was on a daytime pass through. It was a plenty big area, but there's some flats spots on the way back into town from the nearest sector. Definitely a worthy destination, but I preferred the vibe around the Sella a little more, and it is a much more extensive lift connected area than M d'C
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10-23-2018, 03:25 PM #16279
thanks for replies, i was thinking more like whats the lift served off piste like, snow record, bike park for summer, ive avoided the area due to my conception of it being dry, ive been informed(rightly or wrongly)that they get plenty of snow, the reason i ask im working out viable places to buy an apartment,
i love italy the culture/food/prices but not done as much over there as in France,
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10-23-2018, 06:27 PM #16280
the bike deal in the summer in the Sella is nuts. tons of downhill, gondies all over hauling bikes, lots of people riding.
Train access to Val Gardena is decent with a 30 minute taxi up from Ponte Gardena Laion/Waidbruck-Lajen or Bolzano.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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10-24-2018, 12:50 AM #16281
I don't have facts to back it up, but I'm pretty sure the dolomites are on average relatively dry. But then they also get crazy spells that cut off the villages, and think they lost at least one lift a few years back due to snow load.
It wouldn't be my first choice for lift served off piste though. The snow, but also the area is apparently a bit more jumpy about people going off piste than most of Europe - if you're skiing slack country in sight of a lift then patrol can get funny and pull you off the mountain. Probably something to do with the number of shear cliffs about the place. If you stay out of view you're apparently fine. At least this is what Francesco Tremolada told me when we skied with him. And if you want a more positive view of what can be achieved then look him and his book up!
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10-24-2018, 01:21 AM #16282Registered User
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I don't think so - this is just some weird law that implies you endanger others if you ski off piste. ski-touring is not an issue as you do not endanger people on the slopes... everybody knows this is fucked up but skiing is low priority for law makers so they did not change it since the court ruling that started it all a few years ago.
Maybe some Italians have better facts on this but that is what I have heard and the problem is not isolated to resorts with cliffs.
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10-24-2018, 04:49 AM #16283
Yeah, that's probably right. Though I think it's technically illegal to ski off piste in other bits of Italy, but they tend to enforce it less than in the dolomiti. That could be misinformation (though I've never had a guide elsewhere in Italy warm us about it), or could be different laws or a different attitude to enforcement. Who knows. Just move fast near lifts
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10-24-2018, 08:48 AM #16284Rod9301
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The dolomiti are in a national park and it's illegal to use explosives to control avalanches. That's why it's illegal to do ski off piste
Everywhere else in Italy there's no problem.
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10-24-2018, 08:51 AM #16285
Not true.
Bormio and Livigno, for example, have each had issues with offpiste over the years. Recently, LIvigno has set some explicit access policies for certain areas, but in general. you have to pay attention to whether or not backcountry skiing is allowed.
Also:
https://wepowder.com/en/forum/topic/184708
The big 'problem' (or confusion at least) is that every local government can make their own laws about freeriding in their municipality. This is happening in some resorts in the Dolomites. For example: it's forbidden by local law in Arabba (Veneto) to ski out of bounds, but it's allowed in neighboring village Canazei (Trentino // Alto Adige). And that's quite hard, because the border is right in the mountains.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...e-1893331.html .Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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10-24-2018, 11:35 AM #16286
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10-24-2018, 12:43 PM #16287Registered User
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10-24-2018, 01:09 PM #16288
not as confussed as me, i know in the piedmonte to ski any off piste you need shovel beeper and probe, i skied with a guide in Cervinia last year and didnt get sent to prison and bummed by a mafia hit man,
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10-25-2018, 07:25 AM #16289
I just wrote a long explanation, but, in an attempt to keep the jongs away, I've deleted it.
In fairness to the folks who make their living in the ski industry I will say, IME, off-piste skiing is encouraged in the South Tirol. Would love to read something from a state agency or local municipality stating where and when off-piste is illegal. Can't find anything about Arabba. The only sources I've found are from jong Brit chat rooms. Not exactly authoritative.
I've skied through Arabba five times, skied off-piste everytime, and not had a problem. YMMV.
This notion will be especially absurd to those who have been there. And doubly absurd to those who have used a little lift between Arabba and Canizei called the...
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10-25-2018, 01:29 PM #16290Short stories about snow and rock, and pictures, too
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10-25-2018, 01:31 PM #16291
we're not just people on the interweb, getting bummed by a mafia hit man may get some cred on TGR
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10-26-2018, 10:07 AM #16292
Lots of precip coming in the south but too warm. By lots I mean 3m + above 2500-2700m...
Maybe a small window on Sunday in the central northern Swiss alps where Southern precip and colder air from the north meet before it gets warmer again on Sunday. I'll keep an eye on my favorite meadows. But they need a meter before I'd go. We'll see...
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10-26-2018, 11:19 AM #16293Registered User
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10-26-2018, 12:58 PM #16294Registered User
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Yeah, forecast for tirol has +1 at 3000m and a shit load of rain. Rain is good as its been bone dry, but i reckon we'll see some landslides if the forecast amount really does come down
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10-27-2018, 12:11 AM #16295Registered User
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Looks like snow below 2000m in these parts. I’m sure we’ll see some action on Tuesday! Zermatt on course for a snowmageddon event 😱
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10-27-2018, 02:21 AM #16296
1450m here locally...
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10-27-2018, 05:42 AM #16297
Snowing at 1200m here (and starting to stick to the street!)...
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10-28-2018, 05:20 AM #16298
i might be hanging out at the diavolezza when it clears on friday or saturday. anyone else?
I hope they dont open andermatt, so i have another spot for the weekend after
anyway the southern flow pattern is proving quite persistent, unfortunately it gets really warm today and tomorrow but a lot of more snow, and cooling on tuesday. Long term seems like more sw/southern flow so the alpine (above 2000m) in the south will have a good and above 2500m an amazing base when they open things.It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.
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10-28-2018, 06:25 AM #16299Knowledge is Powder
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10-28-2018, 08:26 AM #16300Registered User
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Last edited by LeoK; 10-28-2018 at 09:14 AM.
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