so i skinned up a bootpack today...

**grubbers** · 02-13-2011, 03:53 PM

and i still don't understand what all you skiers are bitching about.

**time2clmb** · 02-13-2011, 04:26 PM

Still better than bootpacking on a skin track. Vengeance on them motha fucka's.

**fluxrad** · 02-13-2011, 04:32 PM

^^^ skinning up a bootpack is the same thing as skinning up a booted up skin track. his point was that neither is that difficult to do and, hence, complaining about people booting up a skin track is dumb.

He's crazy, but I'm pretty sure that was his point.

**DasBlunt** · 02-13-2011, 04:34 PM

Bootpacks should be well away from skin tracks so pole plants are not interrupted by huge holes.

Skinning over boot holes obviously is no big deal.

**Slaag Master** · 02-13-2011, 04:45 PM

in the pow skinning up a bootpack can cover the boot steps making it hard to know where to step - but in the end it is all good - sooner or later we will all get there!

**the_teo** · 02-13-2011, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Slaag Master

in the pow skinning up a bootpack can cover the boot steps making it hard to know where to step - but in the end it is all good - sooner or later we will all get there!

I fucking love your attitude dude

Cheers man!

**time2clmb** · 02-13-2011, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by fluxrad

^^^ skinning up a bootpack is the same thing as skinning up a booted up skin track. his point was that neither is that difficult to do and, hence, complaining about people booting up a skin track is dumb.

He's crazy, but I'm pretty sure that was his point.

Holy fucking reading comprehension fail on my part.

**Camilo** · 02-13-2011, 05:47 PM

BecPostholes in a skintrack have never bothered me. What bugs me is when snowshoes wash out traverses.

**camlax** · 02-13-2011, 07:30 PM

I would ask how steep/ many kickturns there were. It can suck to try to skin up tight switchbacks or be on an edge when each turn is full of holes. If its flat or a ridge, I agree its not that bad.

**fluxrad** · 02-13-2011, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by camlax

I would ask how steep/ many kickturns there were. It can suck to try to skin up tight switchbacks or be on an edge when each turn is full of holes. If its flat or a ridge, I agree its not that bad.

If it's flat, then yeah it doesn't matter. I would figure people would complain more specifically about the 20-degree switchbacks filled with chunked up fluff. I've skinned up behind 3 snowshoers before and it felt like trying to climb a fucking sand dune.

**TheMessenger** · 02-13-2011, 09:51 PM

The worst thing is the hippies. All of the God damned stinking hippies.

**powdork** · 02-14-2011, 01:49 AM

i postholed through fresh powder yesterday. it was no big deal either. don't know why you snowboarders would posthole across a traverse or switchback when it's easier and quicker to go straight up the hill. and then there's a stairway in for everyone else. (and for the record, there are splitters bitching about postholers and skiers postholing on the track as well)

**Name Redacted** · 02-14-2011, 08:16 AM

I once saw telemark boot prints in a skintrack while I was skinning on my splitboard. Blew my mind.

**Shadam** · 02-14-2011, 08:22 AM

I'm a split boarder now,
I started out boot packing coz I didn't know shit.
I still don't know shit,
and now I bitch about everything and everone else.

Remember, I'm a better skier than you !!!

**gpcharles** · 02-14-2011, 09:01 AM

as long as you're not following tracks... i don't give a crap

**Huckin eh?** · 02-14-2011, 09:02 AM

Shadam and I set some fairly agressive skin tracks. When they get postholed, we get a lot of slipback and waste energy making steps to try and avoid such slipback.
We set a lot of skintracks and do so with rockered boards. Hence I get pissed off when a trail that I set is supposed to make my second lap easier, and it only ends up being almost as tough because of lazy postholers. The other option is to set a second skin track that hopefully won't get booted.

**turboLT** · 02-14-2011, 09:36 AM

It's annoying but what're you gonna do? Same as asking people to spoon turns in the backcountry - you can ask but isn't being able to do whatever the F you want the whole point of the backcountry?

**dfinn** · 02-14-2011, 09:40 AM

A better option would be to quit whining and go ski somewhere with less people around.

**senior researcher** · 02-14-2011, 10:00 AM

I'll piss in your ski track.

**userA** · 02-14-2011, 10:53 AM

step just above postholed crap, refill with new sluff, repeat process to satisfy hole intensity.

**powndnstein** · 02-14-2011, 11:13 AM

It's always the same there are those who are in the light and those who are in the dark and those in the dark would rather remain in the dark than ever see the light no matter how dim their perceptions.

**gunniride** · 02-14-2011, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by dfinn

A better option would be to quit whining and go ski somewhere with less people around.

Thankyou for my next sig

**My Pet Powder Goat** · 02-14-2011, 12:45 PM

slip back in steep terrain, and my quick-clips coming undone on my ascension skins are my two problems. ....+ it's just fucking obnoxious, learn some BC etiquette.

**stupendous man** · 02-14-2011, 12:50 PM

snow shoes are worse than boot packs because, as I think someone was trying to say above, they remove the support of the snow and therefore make it the same as trying to skin through springtime sugar.

but, I digress. yes, if its side country or off the pass, such is life.