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Thread: Telemark skiing is dead.
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01-20-2022, 04:38 PM #551
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01-20-2022, 04:59 PM #552
my oldest son, a skilled telemark skier, was on Sugarbush's Instagram yesterday....... not skiing tele ♂️
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01-20-2022, 05:34 PM #553Registered User
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01-20-2022, 05:37 PM #554
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01-20-2022, 05:40 PM #555
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01-20-2022, 05:40 PM #556
Nope. The previous post.
Modern rocker patterns kinda suck for a daily inbounds rig IMO. Minimal rocker up front, a decent amount of camber, and some heft to the ski will do you right. I remounted my 2006 Gotamas (coming from a ski with more rocker) to compliment my VMTs and pow skis and couldn't be happier. If I had to replace I think I'd be looking at Bishop or Summit Cone instead of something built for the alpine genpop.
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01-20-2022, 06:26 PM #557Registered User
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Hmm, learn something new, MMP is speedfreak.
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01-21-2022, 06:17 AM #558
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01-21-2022, 07:10 AM #559
Think you could tell the difference skiing between hammerheads and AXL? Everything else the same. Because I thought AXL and vice replaced HH as an upgrade?
I have both, sort of new to tele, and wondering if I should replace the HH. They are on different skis and I can only tour with the AXL setup. The HH are on a ski more suited to groomers. I had originally thought to put inserts in the skis and swap the AXL back and forth but that seems like a pain in the ass.
I am just skiing the HH but want to make sure that's not what is keeping from being a tele-god. That was a joke in case you were about to keyboard cowboy up my butt.
I am new to tele and really enjoying it on days when the woods are not skiable. Makes lapping groomers fun again. I actually get tired, savor the run, have to stop during a run. You know the drill. Full respect to those tele skiers that just rip!
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01-21-2022, 07:11 AM #560
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01-21-2022, 07:22 AM #561Registered User
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You run what you brung when in doubt get low and keep pressure on that little t
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01-21-2022, 07:43 AM #562
HH is great. Mainly because you can change the pivots and the pressure.
Want soft
Want stiff
It’s there.
I tele as an early season thigh burn. It’s great. Mediocre groomers are fun again. And you feel the Bern.
My preference is high tension and not so low.
Others like soft and deep.
It’s All preference. . .
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01-21-2022, 11:41 AM #563Not a skibum
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Part time tele-hack here. Started dabbling years ago used/beat Scarpa T1 w Voile mountaineer on Marquette BC and has been a shallow slippery slope to riding lifts on Targas mounted to Salomon Gun (90ish underfoot) and now tele every Wed night with a bunch of older guys and one teenager. They're mostly on Meidjo's, but can't bring myself to lay out the cash for something so silly. Fun and my 8 y/o on alpine gear can ski as fast as the adults so she loves Tele-Wednesdays.
[/blog]Last edited by VTskibum; 01-21-2022 at 04:10 PM.
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01-21-2022, 12:10 PM #564
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01-21-2022, 05:12 PM #565Registered User
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I’d switch to 22designs, every binding has the same hole pattern. Slap some inserts in and upgrade bindings whenever you want, worst case you’ll move the boot center back 2 or 3 cm behind duckbill with an upgrade to duckbutt.
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01-21-2022, 05:16 PM #566Registered User
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01-21-2022, 05:16 PM #567
2-3cm is a lot to me.
Noob question, how difficult is it to drill for inserts? I use paper jigs and eyeball appropriate drill bit angle to the top sheet.
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01-21-2022, 05:35 PM #568Registered User
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I don't think you could tell the difference between HHs and Axl/Vice unless you're skiing the HHs in position 1 or 2. It's been a while, but I recall that Axl/Vice's most neutral position is about HH's 3rd position.
Swapping HHs or Axl's back and forth is a pain in the ass. For Axl, it takes too much time with the slick pin and those rubber pads. Axl is an upgrade in that it has a free pivot touring mode and perhaps less parts to deal with. The range of options for activity on the HH has no rival.
If you swap out from Axl to any of 22D's other bindings, NTN included, you'll be only 7mm behind the boot center line.
Installing inserts is not hard. You are wise to be anal and be careful so that you're precise. I probably have installed over 500 inserts over the last 7-8 years, generally consider myself inept, don't use a drill press, and yet have had probably only 5 of those inserts cause me headaches.
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01-21-2022, 05:43 PM #569Registered User
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01-21-2022, 09:17 PM #570
Thanks all. I always figured there was more margin for slop/error drilling for binding screws versus inserts.
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01-21-2022, 09:28 PM #571
I use a guide block and a bit collar for my inserts. Paper templates. My record is't as great as others above, maybe a poor insert for every 3rd set of mounts, so maybe 1 out of 50? A bit of JB weld, re-drill and tap, and Bob's your uncle (but so far my f-ups have been on skis with some metal). Tolerance a bit tighter than screws though, maybe 1mm vs 2mm for screws; just install binding without torquing down the screws to set the epoxy is key. Worth the stress IMO, especially with my TTS spring block.
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01-22-2022, 06:20 PM #572Registered User
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01-22-2022, 07:13 PM #573
Telemark skiing is dead.
Scored those from teledad, they seem like a great replacement for my t2s. So far so good.
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01-22-2022, 08:11 PM #574Registered User
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01-23-2022, 09:17 AM #575
Got to roll out with my 2022 Elan Ripstick 88's and 2020 Ripstick 96 Black Ed's yesterday, both mounted with Outlaws. Couldn't be happier with the quiver this year! I run 180's on my Alpine sticks, and 188cm on my Teles.
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