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Thread: New concept: Salomon BBR
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03-09-2011, 08:49 PM #76
This thread needs to fuck off.
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03-09-2011, 11:41 PM #77
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12-06-2011, 12:43 AM #78Registered User
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Four pages of 'forum' and those who've ridden them could fill one page. Who the hell cares that they look like a horse cock? - you obviously didnt care your girlfriend looks like a mule. Now I gotta get off my fat ass and go ski them. Thanks a lot...
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12-06-2011, 12:56 AM #79
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12-06-2011, 01:01 AM #80Registered User
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I figure I gotta come out swinging or I'll get raped in the showers - I'm JONG on the sphincternet.
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12-06-2011, 01:14 AM #81
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12-06-2011, 06:42 AM #82Registered User
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Penn what?? I'm in Canada, we only watch pros play sports.
I can't post their pics; they don't ski.
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12-06-2011, 07:41 AM #83Registered User
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I demoed the BBR a K-mart last weekend in a 186. It was a free demo so I figured why the hell not. I was surprised by them. They look goofy but turned out to be a fun frontside ski. Short turning radius, damp, plenty compliant on hard snow despite the big rockered tips. I don't think I'd buy a pair it seems like a good one ski quiver for anyone encountered different types of snow everyday.
Some people may think they're for gapers (they kinda are) but they're worth a try.
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12-06-2011, 08:51 AM #84
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12-22-2011, 08:23 PM #85Registered User
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Funny-looking skis that ski great
Tried the BBR 8.9. It is hugely fun to ride.
I am on the mkt for a ski that I want to be a great powder ski and be enjoyable in the absence of hero snow and in the mixed bag we get in the PNW. I have done some demo'ing at Crystal, WA. I recently tried Icelantic Keepers and Shamans; today I tried the BBR 8.9 in the 176 length. The big caveat is that I had no significant pow in any of these demos, a big gap in the testing I did, but I will share what I did learn about all of these. Me: 5'8", 150lbs, expert big mountain, aggressive skier, 50% tele.
Salomon BBR 8.9:
I pushed these very fast and very hard in a variety of conditions, excluding deep pow-- corduroy, hard pack, ice, small moguls, a few stashes of day old 4" soft snow, and crud. In the variety of conditions I took them through, they were incredible. Rock solid feel and terrain absorption, very good edge hold, very stable at high speed, yet easy to carve even at modest speed. Like driving a midsize performance car with world class suspension and AWD.
If I can get a favorable, reliable review or (better yet) demo them (and like them) in pow, I am definitely buying them.
YES, they look funny. It is easy to assume that they ski funny. They don't. If you are aggressive and like to keep forward pressure on your boots, these are a dream. I found no downsides during my demo.
My GUESS about how they behave in powder: Because of the very wide tip and some rocker combined with narrower (by today's standard) waist and tail, I expect that you can keep a more forward stance in pow and not submarine. But, you probably ski in the powder, rather than surf it like a lot of the newer super fat skis. This is a guess, though. I am anxious to test in pow to know for sure. Anyone know first hand how these do in pow?
Icelantics:
Keepers-- take deliberate effort to get up on edge (thanks to 119 underfoot) and do not carve well below mach speed, do carve at very high speeds, rock steady at any speed. Can't comment on their pow performance -- probably great based on shape and width, though they are stiff as hell.
Shamans-- with huge sidecut and enormously wide tips, they carve well. At 111 underfoot, they required much less effort to get up on edge than the stiffer, wider (underfoot) Keepers. But, they are softer and did not hold well on ice. Must be kept on edge or they get a bit squirrelly. Watch out on flat cat tracks where you do not need to turn.
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12-22-2011, 10:27 PM #86Registered User
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^^^ I am trying to decide which I would be most embarrased showing up at the hill with, a "mid-sized performance car with world class suspension and AWD" or the Salomon BBR's.
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12-23-2011, 08:25 AM #87
To be quite completely honest, I don´t think these would be too bad for when my daughter gets her first pair of alpine skis. Can´t machschnell around on 27+ radius skis then, can I?
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12-23-2011, 10:31 AM #88
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12-23-2011, 10:40 AM #89I drink it up
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My renegades are actually pretty perfect for kid skiing. Could be a little shorter, but that's mitigated by the center-ish mount, and reverse camber means they pivot around no problem. Lots of sidecut/camber means pivoting will be more difficult, not less, and pivoting is what you'll be doing. I recommend a straighter ski with no or reverse camber.
focus.
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12-23-2011, 11:13 AM #90
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12-23-2011, 11:46 AM #91
^ I second that motion.
The Salomon BieBeR has a nice ring to it.
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12-23-2011, 11:47 AM #92
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12-23-2011, 11:49 AM #93
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12-23-2011, 12:12 PM #94Registered User
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12-23-2011, 12:17 PM #95
BBRs are like gay sex, it feels great until you look down and realize what you're doing.
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12-23-2011, 12:33 PM #96
The gapers line up for these on demo day. I have seen some of the worst most akward skiing on BBR's.
Training for Alpental
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12-28-2011, 11:00 PM #97Registered User
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I am going to check these out at Target and get back to you guys
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12-29-2011, 01:58 AM #98
So, against my better judgement I skied these about a week ago.
Conditions were a mix of 6 in of fresh on shit, some groomed, and some refrozen shitmcfuckme. I had fun on them. They are stupidly easy to ski in all of the above conditions, but don't expect great performance out of them. In the soft snow I was not hitting the hidden shit, and gave me the most float feeling ski out of the Vicik and experience 88 (which I was also skiing that day) The ski liked to make quick turns, and was easy to turn and change directions. Don't get any stupid ideas about skiing long aggressive turns or going straight.
One thing I really noticed was that ski did not finish a turn. It would pick it up really easy, and quickly accelerate, but would just keep going out, never coming back around. I would essentially do two half turns instead of one, if that makes sense.
It was fun to ski on, but totally fucking gay. If it was not so gay, I would probably get a pair for my dad, who is now old, has broken knees, doesn't ski much or very aggressively. I might still get him a pair and spray paint a new top sheet and ON3P logo on it, but scott would probably kill me.
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12-29-2011, 01:59 AM #99
Oh,
I sold a pair to a gay dude this last fall, he thinks they are fabulous.
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12-29-2011, 10:32 PM #100
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