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  1. #2901
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    Pulled the trigger on an arctic fox/f350 combo that I stumbled upon - will be happier full timing in this thing than the project on wheels bigfoot
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  2. #2902
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    Thanks. Not bad mileage.
    I called and it's 171,000 miles. He left off 100k miles. He said "oh yea, I keep forgetting that."

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    Curious about the reliability of the slide out in winter. We have stayed away from the Lance 1685 trailer for that reason and continue to dry camp in our Escape 17B. Look forward to your experience.

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    So... this happened:
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    1962 10' NCO Alaskan Camper. Mint. Going to have my dad (who's a master woodworker) help me insulate and redesign the interior to increase storage space and usability. Should be awesome. Going on flatbed with custom boxes for gear and ski storage. Maybe an outdoor kitchen and shower too.

    Consequently, my 1986 Bigfoot Camper (that I put a bunch of work/time/money into and is about as clean as you can get) needs to be sold. Thread here.

  5. #2905
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    Quote Originally Posted by yardsale2 View Post
    Curious about the reliability of the slide out in winter. We have stayed away from the Lance 1685 trailer for that reason and continue to dry camp in our Escape 17B. Look forward to your experience.
    They all leak. Some leak worse than others. Ours had rubber flaps that helped seal it shut but it still let a fair amount of cold air in. Leaving it open in 25-30 degrees was no big deal but 10 or colder was a pain. As far as reliability though we never had any issues with it freezing up or anything. Ours was an eagle cap.

  6. #2906
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobueno View Post
    I called and it's 171,000 miles. He left off 100k miles. He said "oh yea, I keep forgetting that."
    Yeah, lol, that makes more sense. I was thinking good price for the miles, but at 171K, makes more sense. Easy truck to work on though. Looks ads been taken down so I guess he sold it. Good for him, cool truck.
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  7. #2907
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobueno View Post
    They all leak. Some leak worse than others. Ours had rubber flaps that helped seal it shut but it still let a fair amount of cold air in. Leaving it open in 25-30 degrees was no big deal but 10 or colder was a pain. As far as reliability though we never had any issues with it freezing up or anything. Ours was an eagle cap.
    What happens if it's warm and the snow melts and then freezes? Do you have to deice the slide out?

  8. #2908
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    What happens if it's warm and the snow melts and then freezes? Do you have to deice the slide out?
    I could see that happening but it never did to us and we spent over a month total in snow and ice down to -15. Ours had an awning which I would consider a must to help prevent leaks and it also saves you from having to clear snow off the slide before pulling it in. Ours ran on two tracks, top and bottom on each side.

  9. #2909
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    What happens if it's warm and the snow melts and then freezes? Do you have to deice the slide out?
    I would imagine you'd be losing enough heat out of the slide to keep it from re-freezing. Just keep the furnace running.

  10. #2910
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    How are these things? I'd rather not have a money pit...

    https://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/6174138576.html

    with 65k on it, that doesn't seem like a bad deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    How are these things? I'd rather not have a money pit...

    [URL]https://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/6174138576.html[URL]

    with 65k on it, that doesn't seem like a bad deal.
    I'm sure they're fine in terms of reliability because the 22r series is practically bomb proof.

    Problem is that thing will be terribly slow. I had the 22re in my 89 single cab 4x4 and it struggled to get up to highway speeds with a load in the bed. And this was in Hawaii where the speed limit is 55 on most highways. I couldn't imagine that RV is comfortable to cruise in.

  12. #2912
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    ^^^ Yeah, I was just thinking about how rough driving it up to the tunnel would be. Cuz, other than being grossly underpowered, that's a pretty slick little package for that kind of dough.
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  13. #2913
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    Quote Originally Posted by yardsale2 View Post
    Curious about the reliability of the slide out in winter. We have stayed away from the Lance 1685 trailer for that reason and continue to dry camp in our Escape 17B. Look forward to your experience.
    We use our slideouts in the winter on our RV. We too have the rubber flaps/seals however air still makes it way through. After I extend the slides, I wedge pipe insulation between the floor and slide out. If it is extremely cold/blowing I do this process from both sides (interior and exterior). No issues with the slide out, just make sure you clean all the snow/ice off the top of the slide out before bringing them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    How are these things? I'd rather not have a money pit...

    https://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/6174138576.html
    Those have a history of broken rear axles.

    Used RV a money pit? Nah, that never happens.

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    My '86 22RE powered rig gets me where I want to go. You just have to relax a bit more and plan a little longer drive time. It will eventually make it to 65, on flattish roads.
    A manual tranny may help. The lack of efi may not.
    You learn to accept downshifting. The steepest pitches I am in 1st, solidly 25-28 mph. But I get there. With my house.

  16. #2916
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    How are these things? I'd rather not have a money pit...

    https://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/6174138576.html

    with 65k on it, that doesn't seem like a bad deal.
    Having owned multiple VW camper vans we have always thought this would be a logical move for us. The real problem with the Dolphin/Toyota campers? They're very hard to find.
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    ^^^ They also have a history of cracked frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive View Post
    ^^^ They also have a history of cracked frames.
    I'm sure that has nothing to do with running 1,000 lbs over weight before you add gear....

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    Damn! well, thanks to everybody who weighed in! I think for several reasons, we're not gonna get it. Kinda sucks cuz I was willing to go slow up the pass and, crazily enough, even the wife was in on the plan. I'm also not sure a class c of any size is right for my situation (the situation of not wanting to spend much on an RV) but that looked affordable, small with OK mpg and pretty nice. Mpg is a big factor for me but I can't throw down for a sprinter promaster diesel thingie. At the same time I don't think its unreasonable to want at least 10-12 mpg for just the wife, me and the dog.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kailua_Boys View Post
    I'm sure they're fine in terms of reliability because the 22r series is practically bomb proof.

    Problem is that thing will be terribly slow. I had the 22re in my 89 single cab 4x4 and it struggled to get up to highway speeds with a load in the bed. And this was in Hawaii where the speed limit is 55 on most highways. I couldn't imagine that RV is comfortable to cruise in.
    Kinda what I was thinking about the 22r motor... Powdrhound pointed out later 25 mph up a steep grade, yikes!! On 1-70, there are lots of 18 wheelers to settle in behind and go that fast but, yikes!! Still, still, not a deal breaker. The wife and I both have subies that can get us to the ski areas for short trips, bad road conditions so on...

    Quote Originally Posted by DIYSteve View Post
    Those have a history of broken rear axles.

    Used RV a money pit? Nah, that never happens.
    Ha! Yeah, I guess there's a lot of stuff to go wrong. Ideally for my budget, I'd like a cargo van with a super simple conversion. Like, bed in the back with the kitchen/storage/furnace behind the driver. I'd severely limit the amount of shit that could fail and could work on it/replace parts myself, having been the installer. I figured if I went with a 1/2 ton and kept weight to a minimum, I could eek out maybe 15 - 18 mpg. Problem is, I don't have the space (and maybe time) to build it out and paying the labor probably puts me over budget and, the time, I mean, I could use that this weekend!! So, one of these deals looks more attractive in many ways, not to mention comfortable.

    I checked into that axle problem and seems you're spot on there. It looks like 87 or 88, they started to use the true dual wheel axle and it solved the issue. Some older ones have been swapped, you can tell by the hub. I've seen some with V6s from the 90s, maybe that could work, little pricier but still finding some under 10k.

    Quote Originally Posted by powdrhound View Post
    My '86 22RE powered rig gets me where I want to go. You just have to relax a bit more and plan a little longer drive time. It will eventually make it to 65, on flattish roads.
    A manual tranny may help. The lack of efi may not.
    You learn to accept downshifting. The steepest pitches I am in 1st, solidly 25-28 mph. But I get there. With my house.
    Sounds like its working out! I could live like this. Damn, why am I not buying it again?

    Quote Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson View Post
    Having owned multiple VW camper vans we have always thought this would be a logical move for us. The real problem with the Dolphin/Toyota campers? They're very hard to find.
    Yeah, not a lot of used inventory, that's for sure. There's a 91 on CL with "cosmetic issues" and a blinking break light. Hmmmm.... did that have the V6? gonna go check.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive View Post
    ^^^ They also have a history of cracked frames.
    This is a tough one. I wonder if its the same issue for later years. Kinda surprising given how good the Toyo 1 ton frame is but it looks like the manufacturer modded it.

    Quote Originally Posted by powdrhound View Post
    I'm sure that has nothing to do with running 1,000 lbs over weight before you add gear....
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruiser View Post
    ^^^ Yeah, I was just thinking about how rough driving it up to the tunnel would be. Cuz, other than being grossly underpowered, that's a pretty slick little package for that kind of dough.
    Yeah. I do like the layout and everything. Meh, if it can go 25 up to the tunnel, that sounds just about as fast as anybody else for most days.
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  20. #2920
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    You want a 1/2 ton pickup with a lightweight popup camper.

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    ^^^Thanks Jong Lafitte, Great info!
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    Easy to tell the newer or retrofitted full-floating Toyota rear axle, just look for the hub with little nuts on it protruding through the center hole in the dually wheels. If it's flat or just a hub cap over an axle flange that's flush with the wheel, you don't want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    You want a 1/2 ton pickup with a lightweight popup camper.
    An attractive option, considering that around here a short cab 2wd 1/2 ton can be had pretty cheap. Pretty damn cheap really. Just a quick glance around CL turns up a few nice light pop ups too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    An attractive option, considering that around here a short cab 2wd 1/2 ton can be had pretty cheap. Pretty damn cheap really. Just a quick glance around CL turns up a few nice light pop ups too.
    No, you want 4wd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    An attractive option, considering that around here a short cab 2wd 1/2 ton can be had pretty cheap. Pretty damn cheap really. Just a quick glance around CL turns up a few nice light pop ups too.
    Quote Originally Posted by powdrhound View Post
    No, you want 4wd.
    Listen to this guy. Unless you live in Texas, you want a 4wd truck.

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