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  1. #8076
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Reccos on alternatives to GFC?
    I had put a deposit down on GFC back when they originally started in 2018 (order #23).
    It was refundable and I got cold feet: wasn't sure the wedge camper was good for winter camping.
    They refunded the deposit no problem.

    I also looked at Vagabond Outdoors' Drifter and I liked their design better (the sleeping platform is more easily accessible.)
    But their prices and leadtimes were not good.

    A recent entrant to the market Super Pacific is located here in Oregon and so I went up to take a look at their product and operation.
    I liked what I saw and lead times aren't too crazy. The sleeping platform configuration is better than GFC I think.
    Being reasonably close (an hour or so away) was also a positive factor
    The price was competitive.
    So I put a deposit down this winter and I'm hoping to have it installed this summer.
    Note that they increased prices a few weeks ago; my order wasn't affected however.

    I've been camping in the back of my Tacoma in an ARE canopy for the past five years and I've enjoyed the simplicity, but I am sure looking forward to being able to stand up in the truck bed to put my pants on!

    Here's a Super Pacific review from a guy who has owned both GFC and now Super Pacific.

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    Being able to stand up to put your damn pants on is basically the major selling point for everything larger than a topper. I have everything else dialed and my sleeping platform is damn comfortable, but standing up.....that's gold.

    Plus when a rain storm or snow storm rolls through you can't really hang out under a topper for a few hours unless you are sleeping.

    I just can't see myself waiting 6+ months. My best hope is finding a used XL GFC that fits my truck or a build spot for this summer.

    I have several weekends/weeks of bike races etc through October and the topper game is getting old....

  3. #8078
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    Guess I'd just say that based on a small amount of digging, the stated lead times from GFC and the actual delivery dates (and in some cases, item delivered) have been...consistently inconsistent. Proximity is a big selling point, probably enough to outweigh many of the complaints other have about their product and CS.

    https://forum.gofastcampers.com/t/gf...d-and-bad/5338

  4. #8079
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    Quote Originally Posted by skysos View Post
    <RANT>

    Please don't buy a GFC. 2 of the owners are total douchebags. Long story is that a previous company they owned Aeocontinental was building a custom camper for their Unimog. They signed a contract that they did not live up to. There was a timeline that was not met and progress was not getting made so they walked away after handing over $50K or so. They never got any of this back, and did not get the camper.

    About a year later, Graham and Eric sued them saying that they have an unlimited legal budget to spend on bankrupting them. True to their intentions the legal fees to defend and counter-sue cost them about $330K so far. It went to trial and they are awaiting a verdict (judge trial) which can take months, but at the end of the trial they stated that no matter what the verdict is they will continue suing them just to cost them more $$$.

    This is bullshit and nobody should give those guys any business. </RANT>
    STFU JONG. One of those names you mentioned is a solid maggot and is someone I know personally. Your story sounds like complete bullshit.


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    I should say that my experience with their CS has been completely stellar. My proximity is about as bad as it gets and they’ve made it work.
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

  6. #8081
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    S



    6', sandy aka a little salt in the beard, and I need to use foam blocks on certain moves. Will get tipsy and act all spiritual for sunsets but that's mostly the herb talking.

    This thing might have legs. What is Patreon?
    one of those bad things that only happens to me, where I totally miss the adams apple and realize she is really a he and it's all way too late


    a couple weeks ago I saw one of those fire engine RV's almost to the top of floyd hill headed west, poor thing was barely pulled over off 70 and blowing thick black smoke

  7. #8082
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    Quote Originally Posted by skysos View Post
    I tried to navigate that website and couldn't figure it out. Looks like you have to pay to search.

    Seems like you are super interested in this so it would probably be best to call them up and get their side of the story.

    Any potential customers should really do their due diligence. The overlanding world is full of horror stories so I feel strongly that you need to trust the people selling these things. For example, when I sent my 50% deposit to Jay for the OVRLND that would be delivered in 6 months, I had to completely trust that he wasn't going to fold up shop and keep the money. It happens.
    I'll do the federal court search later and post what I find.

    I'm not letting go on this because you came in with a very specific and serious accusation, and while there is some indication of some issue with the Lee Whay person, I haven't found anything else to substantiate what you wrote.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    I'll do the federal court search later and post what I find.

    I'm not letting go on this because you came in with a very specific and serious accusation, and while there is some indication of some issue with the Lee Whay person, I haven't found anything else to substantiate what you wrote.
    TGR is on the case now...

    you done fucked up son...
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  9. #8084
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    Someone just call them up and do some investigative journalism for us for fuck sake. Just doing court searches doesn't definitely prove there was or was not a dispute. What if it is a different party name in the complaint for instance? Like all law suits over breach of contract, I assume the answer is somewhere in the middle.

    And really, are we now supposed to not support products just because the company is involved in law suits? Better go live in a cave.

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    Back on topic, I love my All Terrain Camper (built in Sacramento, knock off of the more corporate big time Four Wheel Camper). As others have pointed out, way more space in a four sided pop up. And while I like the light weight of canopy topper style, mine has a plywood floor so it can be removed on and off, stays way cleaner on the interior, and easier to modify the interior with camper appliances, shelving, benches, and storage space of your choosing. My shell model Cougar (like FWC Grandby), the biggest one they make for my 8 foot bed, was 1,000 pounds dry, so lighter if you are getting smaller. Heavier than GFC and competitors, but not that much heavier if you stick with shell and keep your mods simple. Shell is listed on their website as $9,925 and I assume they have build wait times like everyone right now. For a reasonable delivery fee, they let you pick up in Medford, Oregon, so you can cheat on sales tax if you want. They will custom just about anything for a reasonable price. Or if you really want to save money, just go straight shell and do everything else yourself. Whatever route you go, all these have incredible resale value. You absolutely can't go wrong with any choice.

    https://www.allterraincampers.com/PricingAndOptions

  11. #8086
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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    Someone just call them up and do some investigative journalism for us for fuck sake. Just doing court searches doesn't definitely prove there was or was not a dispute. What if it is a different party name in the complaint for instance? Like all law suits over breach of contract, I assume the answer is somewhere in the middle.

    And really, are we now supposed to not support products just because the company is involved in law suits? Better go live in a cave.
    I've been sued and I've sued people. Does that make me a bad person? I don't think so. There are three sides to every story what I said what they said and the truth.



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  12. #8087
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Reccos on alternatives to GFC?
    Have you seen this?
    https://topperezlift.com/

    You still can't stand up in it, but it's a lot more space than just a topper, you already own a nice topper, it's a lot cheaper than a wedge camper, and the lead times are pretty reasonable.

    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    I should say that my experience with their CS has been completely stellar. My proximity is about as bad as it gets and they’ve made it work.
    My Dad's experience has been the same.

  13. #8088
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    I do like the idea of all 4 sides pop up vs wedge.

    I have looked at topper EZ-Lift but if I am waiting 8-10 weeks I may as well go big or go home. I am short enough that standing up may almost be possible with one of those setups.

  14. #8089
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    I'll do the federal court search later and post what I find.

    I'm not letting go on this because you came in with a very specific and serious accusation, and while there is some indication of some issue with the Lee Whay person, I haven't found anything else to substantiate what you wrote.
    I ran it through Pacer. Didn't find anything, at least in MT District Court.

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    If someone wanted a winter use pop-up this one is rad. Fiberglass modern Alaskan.

    https://www.supertrampcampers.com/flagship

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    If someone wanted a winter use pop-up this one is rad. Fiberglass modern Alaskan.

    https://www.supertrampcampers.com/flagship
    That camper looks like a Logical solution.


  17. #8092
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    Hey WRG saw this and thought of you. Looks pretty decent for a pretty decent price

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  18. #8093
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    Ski RV's, who's sleeping in parking lots?

    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    Arrr, every Pirate likes a bit of Booty!
    Why do pirates have cell phones?

    For the BOOTY CALL, get it?!? BOOTY CALL


    YUK YUK YUK YUK YUK!!!!!!

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    What’s a pirate’s favorite letter?

    You’d think it was “R” but actually it’s the “C”

    Get it?!? The “C” bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!


    ———————

    How much does a pirate pay for piercings?

    A buck an ear!!!!!

    Hahahahahahah!!!!

    Oh lordY I kill me.


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  19. #8094
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    WRG

    sell the tundra, move out of you high rent situation and buy a promaster w 20/40k mi on it

    my fixed costs are 200 a month.

    get a membership at the hot springs. shower. soak, and look at hot girls 2 times a day, epic.

    get a small storage unit for stuff to keep the van super neat. winter/summer shit..

    don't get a dog, sounds great and i love dogs, but it's a huge limiter.

    vanning around here, and everywhere really is super easy.

    set yourself free. it's fucking awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Crazy! Wise to sell it in a place like Denver, that way nobody could ever say “314k?!? DAAAANG!!! you could buy a 600 sq ft condo 30 minutes from downtown for that kinda money!!!”


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  22. #8097
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    That GFC story sounds like total bull shit. I'm willing to believe the Unimog conversion didn't work out, but the people that own that thing look to spend most of their time cavorting around the world with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of overland equipment. They look like total douchebags who have probably never been satisfied with any service they've ever received. I'm suppose to believe that two dude from Bozeman are trying to bankrupt them?

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    WRG, what is the need with respect to your work? Do you drive clients to properties now using the truck? That might be ok with current topper situation and ok with the GFC. I'd start looking sideways if someone was showing me property with a full camper on the truck, or a popup. That makes a van even more problematic, right?

    A trailer solves some of those problems, but finding a spot to move it every 7-10 days has to be tough.

    I started with the GFC, but they won't be making an XL to fit my older crew cab chevy anytime soon. Then I started looking at vans and even the micro-vans. Micro-van like the transit connect would be good for me. Not living in it, mostly solo trips and likely heated in the winter just by running the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I ran it through Pacer. Didn't find anything, at least in MT District Court.
    I did the same, using same names I referenced above. Zero hits.

    Conclusion: story does not check out.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    Hey WRG saw this and thought of you. Looks pretty decent for a pretty decent price

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    I don't facebook or anything and I am guessing that Gunnison group is one of those invite only deals, but if you could PM me any info that would be great.


    I just went and looked at this. Won't work for my truck. Needs some TLC. If you have a shop and some time this could be a good project.

    https://bozeman.craigslist.org/rvs/d...333951240.html

    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    WRG

    sell the tundra, move out of you high rent situation and buy a promaster w 20/40k mi on it

    my fixed costs are 200 a month.

    get a membership at the hot springs. shower. soak, and look at hot girls 2 times a day, epic.

    get a small storage unit for stuff to keep the van super neat. winter/summer shit..

    don't get a dog, sounds great and i love dogs, but it's a huge limiter.

    vanning around here, and everywhere really is super easy.

    set yourself free. it's fucking awesome!
    It's super tempting, but I kinda need a place right now. Finally getting to where I am "marketable" in the Bozeman dating scene. Chicks love if you have a van.....parked in the driveway of your 700k house.

    As much as the idea of the van life thing makes sense I do need a regular vehicle for work purposes and not trying to stay single forever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iowagriz View Post
    WRG, what is the need with respect to your work? Do you drive clients to properties now using the truck? That might be ok with current topper situation and ok with the GFC. I'd start looking sideways if someone was showing me property with a full camper on the truck, or a popup. That makes a van even more problematic, right?

    A trailer solves some of those problems, but finding a spot to move it every 7-10 days has to be tough.

    I started with the GFC, but they won't be making an XL to fit my older crew cab chevy anytime soon. Then I started looking at vans and even the micro-vans. Micro-van like the transit connect would be good for me. Not living in it, mostly solo trips and likely heated in the winter just by running the engine.
    I never drive clients around unless they are good friends. Covid seemed to take that totally out of the equation for RE anymore.

    Good point about the camper in the truck bed though. I think a GFC would be OK to show up at client houses/showings because they are sleek/cool looking enough.

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